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Police charged over alleged brutality after media expose

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 5012y.html
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The Independent Broad Based Anti-corruption Commission (IBAC) said in a statement released late on Friday that it had charged one of the officers, a constable, with assault with a weapon and unlawful assault.

A senior constable has been charged with one count of unlawful assault, while a third policeman is expected to face criminal charges in the near future.

The officers charged were involved in an incident at Preston last September that saw disability pensioner "John" pinned down and allegedly beaten with a baton, doused in capsicum spray and blasted in the face with water from a high-pressure garden hose.

Police had gone to John's Preston home last September after his psychologist called triple zero to say she was worried about his deteriorating mental health. At one point, a police officer appears to record a video on his phone as John is sprayed with the hose.

A total of six officers were involved in the incident, but none of them reported it to the internal affairs unit or IBAC. It was revealed as part of a The Age investigation in April into problems with the force's internal oversight system, which dismisses most complaints of police misconduct.
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Police initially resisted standing down the officers involved when CCTV footage of police pinning down John was first revealed.
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The preceding expose, replete with video footage, from April:
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 4z5f2.html

Look out for the video of a cop calmly treading on his head and the one of the (same, I think) cop clubbing his leg repeatedly.


[Questions:
1) How does "John's" psychologist feel now? Angry? Guilty?? Both???
2) What can society do to prevent such abuse, short of having security cameras absolutely everywhere?
3) Can you imagine "John" in the midst of being bashed by six cops trying to (as VLA advises --- see p.1) ask them whether they are arresting him and request their names, ranks and station in writing?
4) How common is such extreme malicious behaviour?]
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You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Err... This was supposed to be a link to a video of yet another incident, but the video seems to be something else... Will edit or recycle post later, perhaps...

I note the Vic Police statement on the incident says in part:

"Dedicated mental health training has been compulsory for all police recruits since 2011.

From July 2018, a baseline training package on effective communication and de-escalation tactics has been included in the bi-annual training that all police, protective service officers and police custody officers are required to complete."



But the incidents caught on camera are not the result of lack of knowledge or skills; they are the result of lack of basic respect for fellow human beings. (And, by "bi-annual", does Vic. Police mean every six months or every two years? As written, it means the former; the latter is "biennial".)
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watt price tully wrote:It's a no for me regarding tattoos. Personally I generally find them hideous. If others want to wear them then that's fine by me, their choice. ...
K wrote:^ WPT, what are your opinions on your colleagues, up or down (or sideways) in authority or experience, noting tattoos on their written orders, reports, etc.? Are there any debates about the relevance (or potential harm) of doing so? Are there any written policies on this matter?

(This question applies much more generally, of course, than just to tattoos...)
watt price tully wrote: K, I think thats' for VPT not general discussion.
Yes, VPT... though in my defence I note that I did not start tattoo discussions in GD. I am sticking the question in this thread.
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K wrote:
watt price tully wrote:It's a no for me regarding tattoos. Personally I generally find them hideous. If others want to wear them then that's fine by me, their choice. ...
K wrote:^ WPT, what are your opinions on your colleagues, up or down (or sideways) in authority or experience, noting tattoos on their written orders, reports, etc.? Are there any debates about the relevance (or potential harm) of doing so? Are there any written policies on this matter?

(This question applies much more generally, of course, than just to tattoos...)
watt price tully wrote: K, I think thats' for VPT not general discussion.
Yes, VPT... though in my defence I note that I did not start tattoo discussions in GD. I am sticking the question in this thread.
You mightn't have started it but you took it (or attempted to) from just general chat about getting a Collingwood tattoo to noting tattoos on reports, written policies, debates, blah blah blah.
Don't have to go deep with everything.
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^ I already agreed previously that it is a VPT question. I therefore put it in what seems a suitable VPT thread.
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Productivity Commission to examine mental health spending in wake of suicide crisis

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/fede ... 50850.html
The Productivity Commission will undertake a major inquiry into the role of mental health in the economy as the Morrison government looks to extract better value from the $9 billion a year spent on mental wellbeing.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg and Health Minister Greg Hunt have asked the commission to examine "whether the current investment in mental health is delivering value for money", as well as how to improve economic and social participation for people struggling with their mental health.
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Australia's suicide rate spiked last year to 3128 deaths - 262 more than in 2016. It was the equal-highest rate seen in the past 10 years, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics. Men accounted for three-quarters of deaths by intentional self-harm.
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Yeah the only thing wrong here is the records being leaked.
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