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Sure, they are confidential observations, P4S. The question is whether they were appropriate. Simply being confidential does not imply they are appropriate. Partly this depends on who made them. (I have to check whether most or all school counsellors are clinical psychologists.)

Regardless, I question the appropriateness of "extremely low IQ", for example. If they haven't tested IQ, that's just not a precise thing to write, and quite frankly sounds rather offensive to me. If they have tested IQ, they should write the score (etc.), not their judgmental-sounding interpretation of it.

I'd also be concerned by "Ensure he has taken his medication". They might say they weren't the ones who prescribed it, but I'm not at all convinced that enforcing drug-taking is the role of anyone in the school. Worse, in (common) practice, people in schools can agitate for this kind of intervention, and once they do such agitating the inevitable result is the prescription appears. (Drugging children for alleged ADHD gets the most media attention.)
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I'm not really too interested in the topic. I was just responding to your specific question whether these things were "medical details" by pointing out that the "medical records" tag had been put on it by the newspaper, not the school.
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K wrote:Sure, they are confidential observations, P4S. The question is whether they were appropriate. Simply being confidential does not imply they are appropriate. Partly this depends on who made them. (I have to check whether most or all school counsellors are clinical psychologists.)

Regardless, I question the appropriateness of "extremely low IQ", for example. If they haven't tested IQ, that's just not a precise thing to write, and quite frankly sounds rather offensive to me. If they have tested IQ, they should write the score (etc.), not their judgmental-sounding interpretation of it.

I'd also be concerned by "Ensure he has taken his medication". They might say they weren't the ones who prescribed it, but I'm not at all convinced that enforcing drug-taking is the role of anyone in the school. Worse, in (common) practice, people in schools can agitate for this kind of intervention, and once they do such agitating the inevitable result is the prescription appears. (Drugging children for alleged ADHD gets the most media attention.)
nor is teaching manners, toilet training, and how to behave in a schooling kind of environment, but with so many lazy parents these days, they have no choice.

ive said previously i believe ADHD drugs are way over prescribed, but some kids do need a behaviour medication. there was a kid in my youngest class who was down right dangerous without his, he threw a brick through the principles window (im talking grade 1 here, so thats about 6 or 7) and attacked other kids. his parents were damn disgusting. they split up and he moved away, I wasnt sorry but i have wondered what happened to the poor kid.

the IQ comment, well ok, its pretty average, but it was still supposed to be for school eyes only, and gee, I remember some of the comments teachers would write on our school reports back in the day! pretty tame by comparison!

it should not have been leaked, and it should not have been printed.
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Why do the parents give teachers so much say?
My eldest was the second youngest in her year level, immature, rather excitable yet no one ever suggested to me she needed drugs!

I could have used some Valium for a while there!
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An Oz article:

https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/201 ... -behaviour

"Later as I was transcribing our conversation I saw my notation "FITH", a throwaway comment made as he bustled me out of his room. "Some kids just have FITH syndrome. We have to deal with it."

FITH? F***ed in the head."
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think positive wrote:Why do the parents give teachers so much say?
My eldest was the second youngest in her year level, immature, rather excitable yet no one ever suggested to me she needed drugs!

I could have used some Valium for a while there!
My daughter repeated prep at primary school. Being 13 weeks prem may have had an impact, she was a smart enough kid but just struggled particularly with reading. Suddenly in about grade 2 or 3, something clicked and she went on from there
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What are the advantages to being 13 years old?
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