Transgender athletes back on the agenda
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The bit I don't get is why we are even thinking about "fairness".
Suppose testosterone levels are the only variable that matters. (They aren't, but suppose that for simplicity.)
Alice is born female in all respects. She has a T level of 40.
Betty is born female in all respects. She has a T level of 60.
Carol is born female in all respects. She has a T level of 90.
Clearly, Carol has an advantage. She has a bigger heart, larger muscles, and so on. But they all start off the same marker. How is this fair?
Now along comes Denise. Denise was born male and transitioned. Whatever her current T level, she had a very high level as a child. She too has the bigger heart and so on. She has an advantage over even Carol.
And so on. Endlessly.
How do you draw a line and say "below this line you are OK, above this line you ain't"? You can't. Not unless you admit that the line is 100% arbitrary and has nothing at all to do with fairness.
It's a total clusterf__k.
Bit like shepherding off the ball decisions, really.
Suppose testosterone levels are the only variable that matters. (They aren't, but suppose that for simplicity.)
Alice is born female in all respects. She has a T level of 40.
Betty is born female in all respects. She has a T level of 60.
Carol is born female in all respects. She has a T level of 90.
Clearly, Carol has an advantage. She has a bigger heart, larger muscles, and so on. But they all start off the same marker. How is this fair?
Now along comes Denise. Denise was born male and transitioned. Whatever her current T level, she had a very high level as a child. She too has the bigger heart and so on. She has an advantage over even Carol.
And so on. Endlessly.
How do you draw a line and say "below this line you are OK, above this line you ain't"? You can't. Not unless you admit that the line is 100% arbitrary and has nothing at all to do with fairness.
It's a total clusterf__k.
Bit like shepherding off the ball decisions, really.
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Where do the humanities come into what you wrote?stui magpie wrote:If we can accept that a person who was born with the biological sex of a man can become a woman, why is it so hard to accept that they maintain a physical advantage over people born biological women? Or is that just the inherent disconnect between humanities and science?
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