Gun laws in USA??

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:15 am

think positive wrote:w.........

personal responsibility. l.......

Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:30 am

stui magpie wrote:An opinion.

Washington (CNN)A top official at an influential coalition of Jewish Republicans on Monday defended President Donald Trump's response to the mass killing at a Pittsburgh synagogue, arguing those who say Trump's harsh rhetoric has stoked national divisions are trying to "score partisan political attacks."

"There are too many people who are using this tragedy for partisan gain," Matt Brooks, who runs the Republican Jewish Coalition, told CNN.
He called Trump's condemnation of anti-Semitism in the wake of Saturday's shooting "very powerful and very strong" and said he has encouraged White House officials to stay the course in the days ahead.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/29/poli ... index.html

Of course he would say that, he's partisan

However for a more considered view try this by a non party member and an older person:

From an essentailly right of centre newspaper

Ethno-nationalism, petty politics and resentment of Jews: Pittsburgh shows us an antisemitism for the 21st century

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/t ... y-1.471762

Trump et al need to stop pedalling hate about minority groups for base politcal reasons.

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:20 am

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:25 am

watt price tully wrote:
stui magpie wrote:An opinion.

Washington (CNN)A top official at an influential coalition of Jewish Republicans on Monday defended President Donald Trump's response to the mass killing at a Pittsburgh synagogue, arguing those who say Trump's harsh rhetoric has stoked national divisions are trying to "score partisan political attacks."

"There are too many people who are using this tragedy for partisan gain," Matt Brooks, who runs the Republican Jewish Coalition, told CNN.
He called Trump's condemnation of anti-Semitism in the wake of Saturday's shooting "very powerful and very strong" and said he has encouraged White House officials to stay the course in the days ahead.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/29/poli ... index.html
Of course he would say that, he's partisan

However for a more considered view try this by a non party member and an older person:

From an essentailly right of centre newspaper

Ethno-nationalism, petty politics and resentment of Jews: Pittsburgh shows us an antisemitism for the 21st century

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/t ... y-1.471762

Trump et al need to stop pedalling hate about minority groups for base politcal reasons.

Every alternate view is partisan at the moment.
CNN, MSNBC, Times, Post and yes FOX are all partisan now - this is the biggest issue.

And Trump attacks the dregs of society for ALL groups. There is no minority / majority. He is an equal opportunity caller out of hate and violence. Its the Media who try to make out that MS13 are full of misunderstood youth and when Trump attacks them he is actaully attacking all non white race groups.

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:28 am

watt price tully wrote:
think positive wrote:w.........

personal responsibility. l.......
Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.

I cant even....thats a long winding road you've used to connect the dots that suits your narrative. I mean this nutter has a history and part of that is attacking Trump and his policy on Israel.

Post by **Pies4shaw** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:52 pm

MJ23 wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:There is an obvious difference between expressing a political view, on the one hand and peddling deliberately divisive, hateful rhetoric on the other.
Agree - the problem is by who's definition does a political view become divisive, hateful, rhetoric ?

Currently its the left who have this as their talking points attacking Trump, his Admin and republicans. Ironically they do it through divisive, hateful rhetoric.

Well, not yours, obviously, since your response suggests that none of those words has any meaning.

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:56 pm

I've heard of it before.

Wokko · Post by **Wokko** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:31 pm

Post by **think positive** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:55 pm

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:06 pm

Wokko wrote:

Nice photo of the POTUS. Oh wait, it's not. False analogy. No hypocricy because the analogy is simply false.

Now where that pizza shooting you attirbuted to Clinton: that's right it was fake news from you.

HAL · Post by **HAL** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:07 pm

For you Maybe the problem?

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:09 pm

MJ23 wrote:
watt price tully wrote:
think positive wrote:w.........

personal responsibility. l.......
Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.

I cant even....thats a long winding road you've used to connect the dots that suits your narrative. I mean this nutter has a history and part of that is attacking Trump and his policy on Israel.

If you choose not to see then that limts your capcity to see. Either its simplisitic or its a long winding road. Now wait it's both

watt price tully · Post by **watt price tully** » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:30 pm

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:45 am

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:53 am

watt price tully wrote:
MJ23 wrote:
watt price tully wrote: Yes, of course the perpertrator is responsible for his behaviour. However his behaviour was enabled (to what extent should be the discussion point) by the irresponsible comments by Trump and his admin / cronies by creating the conditions in part for a murderer to act out his racist views.

I cant even....thats a long winding road you've used to connect the dots that suits your narrative. I mean this nutter has a history and part of that is attacking Trump and his policy on Israel.
If you choose not to see then that limts your capcity to see. Either its simplisitic or its a long winding road. Now wait it's both

Again, my point exactly. Its simple disguised by a long winding road.
You use a lot of words in a long winding argument that doesn't say anything much other than your one talking point. Its not simple language. Its actually condescending....and repetitive.

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Gun laws in USA??