The 'me too' movement

[Wokko]

It's like a reverse #metoo. He's admitted it and without a shadow of a doubt he did it, but she didn't want the allegation aired and someone decided to anyway.

[David]

[David]

[stui magpie]

^

Yeah, that was covered in the Aged link I posted.

[thesoretoothsayer]

[David]

[stui magpie]

^

You don't think that basically negotiating a contract to have sex or not, apart from being a serious mood killer, also kills spontaneity?

Scenario:

2 people hook up on Tinder. They go out for something to eat and have a few drinks, then go back to one of their houses.

Both are over 0.05 but neither are shitfaced to the point of not being capable of expressing consent or otherwise. They sit on the couch and start to kiss which becomes more passionate and heated, leading to sex which both enthusiastically participate in.

We're operating on implied consent here, the sex was spontaneous, neither party gave any indication to the other, verbal or non-verbal, that there was a lack of consent.

Next morning both are feeling a bit dusty and a little uncomfortable, so they go their separate ways.

Later that day or the next, one of the parties starts to feel more and more uncomfortable with what happened as it was out of character, wasn't what they intended when they went on the date, and they start to blame the other party in their mind which grows and grows until they decide to go to the Police and make a complaint of rape.

Were they raped?

NB, the scenario is deliberately gender neutral

[David]

[stui magpie]

OK then, I think we are in agreement

[watt price tully]

Another one

NSW Opposition Leader Luke Foley has resigned as Labor leader but says the harassment allegations levelled against him by an ABC journalist are false.

Reading from a prepared statement late afternoon on Thursday, Mr Foley said he had already engaged lawyers and would now begin defamation proceedings in the Federal Court.

A Labor pollie this time. Wonder if his presumption of guilt or innocence will play on party lines here?

Read more at https://www.businessinsider.com.au/nsw- ... z7WXAbc.99

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The issue here is the abuse of parliamentary privlge to make a polical point at the expence of the womans express comments for the matter to be kept confidential.

Foleyhas resigned and sho he should. He needs to defend himself as he says he will. However Elliott of the Libs needs to follow. Whether he is guilty or not who knows although she has a witness apparently.

Similar it seems to the Geoffrey Rush case: bith women woianted this not to proceed futher. Both let down by others.

[think positive]

[K]

[K]

[Wokko]

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Perhaps "spontaneity" is overrated. It'd also need to be very fragile spontaneity, if it could be killed off by the six seconds needed to check everything's fine.

Guess it depends how freaky whatever you want to do is.

[Dave The Man]

Hate to be a Male in this Day and Age