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Not sure how to stop radicalization though with these lonewolf type of incidents.
We are lucky here in Australia that our only 2 Terriost Attacked been a Lonewolf Attacks and not a Organised Gang doing them.

It would be very hard to stop the very tiny numbers of Nutters that would actually go thru with the Attacks
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There's been 9 terrorist incidents in Aus in the past 4 years Dave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _Australia
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Rather than resurrect one of the other terrorist threads, I thought this could go here.

People can refer to the number of terrorist incidents in Australia as minimal and write them off. What they don't see is the work going on behind the scenes to prevent them. Like this.

https://outline.com/KapLVA

And in the Aged.
An elaborate police sting involving thousands of intercepted phone calls and text messages led to the arrests of three men accused of plotting an Islamic State-inspired terror attack designed to kill as many people as possible in a crowded place in Melbourne.
Police said they had to swoop on Tuesday after the group tried to obtain a .22 semi-automatic rifle in recent days.

"If we had not acted ... in preventing this attack, we allege the consequences could have been chilling," federal police assistant commissioner Ian McCartney said.

In court, prosecutor Aman Dhillon said investigators needed four months to compile the brief of evidence against the accused.

There were 17,000 telephone intercepts and 10,000 text messages to assess and 7800 hours of recordings captured on various listening devices to collate, Mr Dhillon said.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 50h4t.html

It must be true, even the Guardian managed to manage a report, even if pinched from AAP.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -melbourne
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Well done vio pol and the Aussie CIA?
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stui magpie wrote:..........

It must be true, even the Guardian managed to manage a report, even if pinched from AAP.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -melbourne
You know something we don't?

The Guardian wrote "with AAP"

Pinched? This isn't the Daily Wire or Daily Mail or similar rubbish.
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OK, so "pinched" is maybe not the correct term as it implies they stole it when AAP copy is available to all news outlets to use.

What I meant is that they effectively just used the copy from AAP rather than have any of their own writers write something that clearly conflicts with their values.

On a side note, I heard Peter Dutton on the radio this morning on the way to work. It was cutting in and out as I streaming it, but he provided a good explanation of why we cancel passports for people on terrorist watch lists, preventing them from leaving the country rather than letting them go.

In short, if they were born here (as the most recent 3 were) they have a constitutional right to come back. We can't prevent them from returning, unlike duel citizens.

So they prevent them from leaving which prevents them from getting first hand education in terror aspects such as bomb making and also prevents them being used as poster boys for the ISIS propaganda machine and therefore radicalising more young men and women.

Fairy nuff.
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So they prevent them from leaving which prevents them from getting first hand education in terror aspects such as bomb making and also prevents them being used as poster boys for the ISIS propaganda machine and therefore radicalising more young men and women.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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You let them go, with rights to come back, you're playing a lottery/

1. They may come back disillusioned as you say and be a positive. Unlikely but possible.

2. They may influence others back home while they're there. That's a risk

3. They may get killed. Positive but again, martyrdom in propaganda.

4. They come back more radicalised than ever, but now with skills and the profile to organise more radicals.

Overall, on balance of risk, keeping them here and monitoring them is the best option IMHO
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stui magpie wrote:You let them go, with rights to come back, you're playing a lottery/

1. They may come back disillusioned as you say and be a positive. Unlikely but possible.

2. They may influence others back home while they're there. That's a risk

3. They may get killed. Positive but again, martyrdom in propaganda.

4. They come back more radicalised than ever, but now with skills and the profile to organise more radicals.

Overall, on balance of risk, keeping them here and monitoring them is the best option IMHO
can we ship them to tasmania?
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100 in binary.
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some one should blow bots up
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Some may one should blow bots up, but not all.
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just one is all i need
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