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It should be a source of some considerable concern to Americans that the "bombshell news" of the weekend is that the President of the United States wasn't positively found to have committed treasonous acts. The good governance bar has been set a little low.
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Pies4shaw wrote:It should be a source of some considerable concern to Americans that the "bombshell news" of the weekend is that the President of the United States wasn't positively found to have committed treasonous acts. The good governance bar has been set a little low.
Well it is "bombshell news" because for the past two years the lamestream media has been telling us that Trump is a Russian agent, spends his spare time getting urinated on by prostitutes and will be arrested and charged at any moment.
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It was never asserted by anyone sane that he is actually a Russian agent.

The second thing was not the subject of this particular investigation.

The third thing can't happen to a sitting President, although, come the end of his term, it may otherwise still be true.

Putting your empty and irrelevant contentions aside, are you saying that you don't think the good governance bar has been set a little low when the White House claims a "victory" because the President wasn't found to have committed certain particularly serious crimes? If so, on what rational basis would you say that?
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It was never asserted by anyone sane that he is actually a Russian agent.
No sane person?
NYT claimed that the FBI had opened an investigation into this very thing.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/p ... quiry.html
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A sitting Senator suggested it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f214bb3836
swoop42 wrote:Is Trump to arrogant (or worried) to admit that Russia played a role in aiding his Presidential campaign or is he more concerned about building his business empire via Russian opportunities when he leaves office.

At worst he comes across as a Russian agent, at best as someone who is being coerced by the Russian government.

The alarm bells have begun.

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-a ... 4zrul.html
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They do enjoy talking to themselves about themselves, don't they.

But despite the navel-gazing, one of those articles has managed to identify the moral high-point of this presidency: "there was, after all, always a possibility that Trump and his associates were amateurishly lying and obstructing justice to tamp down a scandal that was less criminal than embarrassing and politically damaging".

It's good that some people can see that as a "victory". Good governance principles, here we come.
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Senate rejects Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal in 57-0 vote blasted as a ‘sham’ by Dems

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Glad that that phoney Republican intimidation exercise is over and done with, and that it was called out for what it was.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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^But a 'Russian agent'? That's in the same class as alien abductions.

This was about quid pro quos which may meet the technical definition of collusion. Ironically, the point at stake is a technicality far removed from hysteria, and it is only being pursued because there are no laws capable of prosecuting outright abuse of the office of the supreme pharaoh.
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You would think that if you're running for the President of the United States that upon receiving news that a foreign hostile power was looking to meddle in the democracy of your country you would immediately report it to the FBI.

The Trump camp met them for drinks and a chat.

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pietillidie wrote:
You also seem to have forgotten that the Dems won the House on the back of waning support for Trump beyond his fanatical base due to the lack of stability he represents. The constant association with corruption, rightly emphasised, has played a major role in this. In fact, do you see any indication that it hasn't worked?
Lost half the seats of Obama and Clinton and gained in the Senate. Only FDR and GW Bush have gained house seats in their first midterms. Your analysis is rubbish.

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