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If women wish to pursue a long-term career then they're welcome to do so, but I don't think it should be stigmatised if they don't want to pursue that path.
1st wave feminism : staying at home to raise kids is a woman's primary role.
2nd wave feminism : staying at home to raise kids is a choice.
3rd wave feminism : staying at home to raise kids is a betrayal of the sisterhood.
If women wish to pursue a long-term career then they're welcome to do so, but I don't think it should be stigmatised if they don't want to pursue that path.
1st wave feminism : staying at home to raise kids is a woman's primary role.
2nd wave feminism : staying at home to raise kids is a choice.
3rd wave feminism : staying at home to raise kids is a betrayal of the sisterhood.
This is such a massive strawman (or woman) that I don't even know where to start. Hardly any contemporary feminist (many of whom would probably be more accurately described as fourth-wave) actually believes this. I also suspect you don't know much about first-wave feminism if that's your summation of what their views were.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
You obviously don't know your feminism then David.
Simone de Beauvoir: “No woman should be authorized to stay home to raise her children. Women should not have that choice, because if there is such a choice, too many women will make that one.”
Yeah, and she was a second-wave feminist!!! Indeed, pretty much the founder of that movement. If anything, my impression is that feminism has become a lot less prescriptive and fundamentalist about such questions in the past thirty years, and if anything is a lot more supportive of stay-at-home mothers now than it used to be. That's one reason why thesoretoothsayer's post is so ridiculous.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
With a 2 parent family, the parent with the highest earning capacity should work and the other should be the primary carer.
The primary carer should do the majority of the housework. It's not actually that hard.
Where both parents work full time, the workload should be more equal but divided on skills. There should also be some discussion abut what work needs to be done
Dishes need to be done, clothes need to be washed, food needs to be provided.
On the other hand, beds don't need to be made, clothes don't need to be folded or ironed.
Easiest way to reduce the housework load is to reduce the work to what's necessary. An untidy house isn't the same as a dirty one.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
That reminds me of some awkward conversations I’ve had myself of late, Stui. It’s a tricky one, isn’t it? Often the male and female members of a couple will have different views on how much housework is actually required. I guess the best answer, as is so often the case, lies somewhere in-between: it is easy for the person who’s not home as much to not care about neglecting looking after a place that they don’t have to spend all that much time in.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
You went where I wasn't going with the male/female divide on housework.
I think it comes down to their mother. Woman who's mother maintained a display house can feel guilted to do stuff that most blokes don't see the need in. My daughter is a slob, my son's ex was a pig.
My mum makes her bed every morning, I leave the doona laying where it was when I get out of bed. She'll do the dishes like 4 times a day, after every time anything gets eaten, and complain that her hands are messed up from washing dishes all the time. My suggestion to either leave the fkn things on the sink and do the dishes once a day or use the dishwasher, is apparently the wrong response.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
It’s a tricky one, isn’t it? Often the male and female members of a couple will have different views on how much housework is actually required. I guess the best answer, as is so often the case, lies somewhere in-between: it is easy for the person who’s not home as much to not care about neglecting looking after a place that they don’t have to spend all that much time in.