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partypie wrote:The big question is whether the country is really experiencing the strong economy spruced during the election campaign
Have a feeling things might go pear-shaped soon. Labor may have dodged a bullet.
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Chris Kenny nails it.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6040069675001

If you think Labor needs to stay left, or move further left then you want them condemned to a generation in opposition.
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It's true that the progressive media class are detached from mainstream Australian thought. But Murdoch journalists like Kenny are the other side of the same coin. Sky News and Alan Jones types think they're the voice of the people, but hardly anybody apart from diehard Lib voters listen to or care about them. Most people are fairly apolitical and will either vote the way they always have or swing on specific policy issues, as opposed to culture war rubbish.

If Kenny was right and really representative of mainstream Australian views, then we wouldn't be looking at results like the Coalition winning 51-49 or (heaven forbid) even sometimes losing; they'd win in a landslide every time. The fact is, a lot of normal everyday Australians already do care about climate change, and that number will only increase as the younger generation gets the vote and the old climate sceptics find themselves ever more marginalised.
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Alan Jones, Rowan Dean and Peta Credlin all predicted the election result almost exactly. Obviously they're closer to the pulse than you think. Labor wins when they focus on the working class and on services, health and education. Their wins have come from the Labor Right; Hawke, Keating and Rudd. Gillard was of the left but didn't rock the boat on social issues and still barely scraped in.

Shorten was doing great but couldn't keep the left in check during the campaign; carping on about taxing the rich, gender centres and massive climate change action.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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David wrote:
partypie wrote:The big question is whether the country is really experiencing the strong economy spruced during the election campaign
Have a feeling things might go pear-shaped soon. Labor may have dodged a bullet.
Nobody really wants that to happen - senate numbers finalised to pass the tax cuts before July 1 could make some difference. Morrison took a punt on that.
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The problem with getting Senate results is that the candidates have to be placed in a Petri dish for weeks, so they can grow to a critical mass.
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stui magpie wrote:if Labor loses the unloseable, I'll spit up a lung laughing and little bill will be shortenly unemployed.
I'd seriously be in a "leaving the country" mood if that happened. Not in the anti-Trump "we're all doomed" sense, but because it would be a huge reward for uselessness and just make me despair of anything ever getting better politically here.
Got your itinerary yet David?
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I know it’s an objectively bad attitude and bad politics but, yeah, honestly, if we had the means then we’d be seriously considering it. Even you’d have to admit that this country kind of sucks sometimes.
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Youdlike Wellington :P :wink:
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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the Senate
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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This really is becoming a bonanza!

13th of March...

Mr Oliver said each $US10 difference in the iron ore price above Treasury expectations lifts Commonwealth revenue by about $3 billion to $4 billion over a full year.

The 2018 budget forecast the price of iron ore at $US55 a tonne but it been hovering between $US80 and $US85 a tonne for the past month and has sat above $US65 a tonne since September

The price of Iron Ore on Friday 24th of May was $105.32 and indicators show it gaining again tonight.

$US50 a tonne above budget forecast equates to $150 billion - $200 billion above the forecast.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&sour ... 3824285158
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He'll need some accommodation, so I found David a couple of places to live there, too:

https://www.realestate.co.nz/2935597

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