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slangman wrote:Spot on. He’s a very very lucky young man that he is even eligible to play again this year.Jezza wrote:Disagree. He's lucky he's only missing 10 games.think positive wrote:10 weeks is overs, it’s pure and simple Collingwood loading.
The fact that he self-reported means he only misses 10 matches (half a season) compared to a whole season.stoliboy wrote:Punishment is too harsh.
Where is the incentive for other AFL players in the future to self report and come forward... you’re going to lose half the season.
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This. I get the drink-driving analogy and that it not being the pub’s fault, but the AFL have to understand that they’ve absolutely normalised this (and probably helped foster a number of addictions along the way).RudeBoy wrote:Whenever Kim Jong Gil and the AFL hierarchy take the high moral ground on anything, they absolutely stink of hypocrisy. This is but one of the more blatant of such occasions.
The AFL has, more than any other organisation in the country, paved the way for the normalisation of betting so much, such that many people can't distinguish the game from gambling. Young people are now growing up only ever seeing gambling ads for footy when they watch the game. They have never know it to be any different. This has long been the case with horse racing, but now footy is fast becoming a similar sport, where gambling is integral to its very fabric. It sickens me, and the leaders of the AFL should collectively resign in disgrace. They have done much, much, much more damage, bringing disrepute to our game, than Stevo has done. Shame AFL, shame.
I too am concerned about the psychological effect of all this on Jaidyn. Guess we have to trust in the club's ability to support him and avert any mental demons that may arise.taff wa wrote:Yes Jaidyn Stephenson has been very foolish doing what he has done, he has copped his whack justifiably so but more importantly my concern is how is going to cope psychologically even if it is his own fault. Too many footballers already have some mental issues, don’t need anymore. He’s still a very young man at the beginning of hopefully a long career in front of him playing for the mighty Collingwood football club. Side by side.
...but a totally predictable one. He defends the powers that be down the line, including their hypocricy.PyreneesPie wrote:This double standards hypocrisy by the AFL was put forward by Mike Sheahan on AFL 360 tonight. Gerard showed little interest in giving it any air time. A very disappointing response by him.Piesnchess wrote:
this penalty is just insane, madness, an meanwhile the League promotes gambling heavily, and makes millions out of it, blatant hypocrisy.
Take the blinkers offPiesnchess wrote:slangman wrote:Spot on. He’s a very very lucky young man that he is even eligible to play again this year.Jezza wrote: Disagree. He's lucky he's only missing 10 games.
Yes, maybe hed be better off smashing a opposition player in the face, breaking his jaw, the other guy loses four teeth, misses many games, and Stevo gets 8 weeks, like Gaff, and plays in a Premiership team.
I love this David!David wrote:This. I get the drink-driving analogy and that it not being the pub’s fault, but the AFL have to understand that they’ve absolutely normalised this (and probably helped foster a number of addictions along the way).RudeBoy wrote:Whenever Kim Jong Gil and the AFL hierarchy take the high moral ground on anything, they absolutely stink of hypocrisy. This is but one of the more blatant of such occasions.
The AFL has, more than any other organisation in the country, paved the way for the normalisation of betting so much, such that many people can't distinguish the game from gambling. Young people are now growing up only ever seeing gambling ads for footy when they watch the game. They have never know it to be any different. This has long been the case with horse racing, but now footy is fast becoming a similar sport, where gambling is integral to its very fabric. It sickens me, and the leaders of the AFL should collectively resign in disgrace. They have done much, much, much more damage, bringing disrepute to our game, than Stevo has done. Shame AFL, shame.
I don’t get it: is the AFL really struggling for money so badly that they desperately need these sponsorships? Is there a danger that McLachlan might not be able to maintain his millionaire CEO lifestyle if they have one less funding source? Or do they really not give a shit about anything?
Wow, a great serve back to the AFL. Excellent!!K wrote:Baum:
AFL's betting problem is black and white
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl ... 51zcq.html
"But one unintended consequence of the gravity of his suspension is that it has turned the spotlight 180 degrees back onto the AFL and its problematic gambling nexus.
With one hand, they slap down Stephenson for his $36 betting spree. With the other, they take an estimated $10million from online bookmaker Beteasy. At $36, it is recklessness. At $10million, it is good business.
With one hand, they preach moderation in gambling. With the other, they wave through a gambling advertising blitz on TV, radio, in print media, online, all over the AFL's own website and at the grounds, unrelenting and inescapable, until your head spins like poker machine wheels. Gamble responsibly? How about advertise responsibly?
With one hand, the AFL forbid footballers to bet. With the other, they strew temptations to bet in front of young men, traditionally society’s highest risk-takers and the incidence is proportionately higher among footballers, who have time and cash to spare and whose whole existence is a continuous exercise in backing themselves. Does anyone really believe that Stephenson is the only footballer to have a wager this year?
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Here’s a real-life announcement. "It was agreed that we would end all sponsorships with betting companies starting from the end of this season," it reads. "The decision was made following a three-month review of our approach to it as a governing body taking betting sponsorship, whilst being responsible for the regulation of sports betting with the sport's rules."
Sadly, that is not the AFL, or any Australian sports body, but the English Football Association in 2017, severing a deal worth millions of pounds to them.
Expect the AFL's end of season study tour to be to Las Vegas again."
A number of us have agreed with this.10 weeks is overs, it’s pure and simple Collingwood loading.
