Personal behaviour vs employment

[Skids]

All this over some ridiculous fairy tale books written centuries ago.

The lunatics are almost in a controlling position now.

[thesoretoothsayer]

Funny that when it was "eggboy" (and others) the media seemed to have no problem with crowfunding.
Now it's Falou, suddenly we get pictures of children with leukemia and lectures about the proper use of crowdfunding.
Just saying.

[David]

soretoothsayer, can we please not agree? It's making me uncomfortable.

But yeah, in all seriousness, you could fertilise every farm in the country with the amount of bullshit being flung around this case.

[thesoretoothsayer]

I suppose populists and the left can agree that handing morality over to large corporations and the mainstream media isn't a great idea.

[K]

He'll just do it through another website -- he could presumably do it through his own, though he may need to spend some of that money on preventing cyberattacks:

Israel Folau takes aim at GoFundMe suspension amid claim of cyber attack

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-u ... 520ss.html

[stui magpie]

Funny that when it was "eggboy" (and others) the media seemed to have no problem with crowfunding.
Now it's Falou, suddenly we get pictures of children with leukemia and lectures about the proper use of crowdfunding.
Just saying.

Key difference is, eggboy attacked a far right pollie so the left loved him

Folau said Gays would go to hell unless they repented their sins, which the left hated and applied pressure to the company, as we've seen previously, and they folded.

My objection to him raising money that way for a court battle was simply that he is already wealthy. Fund the case yourself or get the church to kick in and support you, don't ask ordinary people to give you cash. I didn't support eggboy's bid either, but he didn't start the page, someone else did, he got pro bono legal support and donated the money top the Christchurch appeal.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for Folau. Granted he's not the brightest bunny in the hutch but he's made millions playing sport and has a sizeable following. Despite having had enough conversations with Rugby Aus about what was acceptable, he used his fame to push his beliefs.

I'm comfortable that his intent was not malicious but he was dead set dumb. When any celebrity these days publicly goes against the progressive left agenda they should just paint a bullseye on their arse, bend over and wait to be FUBAR.

[K]

[Morrigu]

Too bad so sad - NOT!

The left, the right, freedom of speech, freedom of religion blah blah blah

Pretty simple for me - in this day and age as a professional you are bound by a Code of Conduct you agree to it when you sign your employment contract and take the money you are paid for doing the job you agreed to do.

If you don't want to abide by the Code of Conduct your profession has in place - you are free not to - go get another job where a Code of Conduct that you feel restricts your freedom to say whatever you like , whenever you like, to whoever you like is not in place.

You don't get to take the dollars and then thumb your nose at the conditions you agreed to - that's what Folau did and quite reasonably he faced the consequences.

That's it - that's why he lost his job - not because of his religion but because he didn't think he should have to conform to the conditions of his employment contract!

And then to beg publicly for funds to legally challenge a decision that occurred totally because of his own actions with " fight of my life" - please spare me!!!

[K]

GoFundMe has set itself up as judge, jury and executioner

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-u ... 520pe.html

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You could say GoFundMe, as just another profit-making corporation, is not responsible for trying to fix the lack of access for all to the justice system.

[Morrigu]

I’ve been thinking of writing a piece on this, obviously in support of Folau. Won’t the reaction to that be edifying.

You should - be sure to include how you think it is reasonable and acceptable for a person to breach the Code of Conduct included in their employment contract that they agreed to and freely signed but yet .....

On Nick’s BB, like any other public forum, there’s a balance to be maintained between freedom of speech and restrictions on what can be said.
As has always been the case, posts that break the rules will be edited or deleted, and posters who do so may be warned or sanctioned.

That should indeed be edifying.

[stui magpie]

^



You go girl.

[K]

'... Law Council of Australia president Arthur Moses, SC said the company made the right move.

"Given the legal uncertainties surrounding the use of crowdfunding to raise money to support litigation, it is my view that GoFundMe took the appropriate action in cancelling Israel Folau’s fundraising campaign," Moses said.

"GoFundMe is entitled to rely on its terms and conditions in order to terminate the fundraising campaign. It is the appropriate course of action.

"The issue of crowdfunding and its application to litigation opens up a range of complex issues that the legal profession and courts must now grapple with in order to protect the public and the integrity of the administration of justice.

"The legal profession will need to consider closely establishing ethical rules and guidance for practitioners who are conducting crowdfunded litigation."'

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-u ... 520ur.html

[K]

^ Sounds like a strange claim if the bloke in the other article is right that 17,000 legal fund campaigns continue on GoFundme, including Greens Senator Sarah Hanson-Young's.

[K]

But another article...:

"The removal of Israel Folau from the GoFundMe website puts the Australian rugby union star in the company of far right militia, anti-vaccination campaigners and police officers accused of killing an African-American man in being banned from the fundraising site.

However, the site has has allowed other controversial pages to remain, including one raising funds for the legal fees of anti-abortion campaigner Graham Preston, to remain online."

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/rugby-u ... 520rt.html

[David]