Climate change

[stui magpie]

Here’s a response by Thunberg herself to some of the kinds of accusations made in this thread, by the way:

https://www.facebook.com/73284649708317 ... 801?sfns=1

Nothing there changes my views.

Personally I'd like to see more of these climate activists scared of the Amazon burning. There's an emergency and extinction event not caused by global warming.

And David, waiting for you or anyone else to provide some reputable science that refutes my views above with the NASA link. You were one who referred to the Pacific Islanders being flooded. The Aboriginals were here when sea level rose by more than 100 metres over a 10,000 year period finishing just 5,000 years ago.

[Pies4shaw]

I don’t think you’ll find too many people concerned about climate change but in favour of burning down the Amazon.

[David]

And David, waiting for you or anyone else to provide some reputable science that refutes my views above with the NASA link. You were one who referred to the Pacific Islanders being flooded. The Aboriginals were here when sea level rose by more than 100 metres over a 10,000 year period finishing just 5,000 years ago.

Not quite sure what the relevance of the latter point is. Obviously Australia is a huge place, so sea-level rises were never going to jeopardise life on the continent. But that’s not to say that it didn’t take a lot of lives, depending on how suddenly it occurred or the effect it had on resources, etc. In contrast, there are entire island chains, atolls and densely populated coastal regions that risk being literally covered by the ocean. That’s a lot of refugees, to begin with.

[stui magpie]

Agreed, but while it burns and gets cleared for farmland, people hyperventilate about fossil fuels. The impact of the Amazon is way above just a few trees sucking in CO2, it has a real and wide impact on climate. That's an emergency.

[stui magpie]

And David, waiting for you or anyone else to provide some reputable science that refutes my views above with the NASA link. You were one who referred to the Pacific Islanders being flooded. The Aboriginals were here when sea level rose by more than 100 metres over a 10,000 year period finishing just 5,000 years ago.

Not quite sure what the relevance of the latter point is. Obviously Australia is a huge place, so sea-level rises were never going to jeopardise life on the continent. But that’s not to say that it didn’t take a lot of lives, depending on how suddenly it occurred or the effect it had on resources, etc. In contrast, there are entire island chains, atolls and densely populated coastal regions that risk being literally covered by the ocean. That’s a lot of refugees, to begin with.

With a 20cm rise in sea level over 80 years? maybe 1 metre over a couple of hundred years?

They aren't going to wake up one morning to find their house underwater, this shit takes time. lots of it.

[pietillidie]

^The things which most worry me are an increase in extreme weather events and a general acceleration in climate shift. The implications for people movement/agricultural production/pest species/disease/political stability/geopolitics/economics are mind boggling. This at a time when dim wits are white anting multilateral institutions and we are struggling to cope with a raft of transglobal concerns such as population growth, terrorism, pollution, species loss, festering nationalisms, and more.

Short-term protectionism and head-in-sand isolationism in the face of what we already know is criminally insane, even if the numbers are hard to compute. Just think of how batty electorates have become in the face of present problems; it doesn't take much to bump things off-kilter.

[stui magpie]

Growing crops will be interesting.

In the northern part of the Goulburn valley, just south of the Murray, the canola and other crops are growing well, just north of the Murray in the Southern riverina, wheat crops are largely failing due to lack of rain and will likely be cut for hay. Water prices are ridiculous despite the Hume Weir holding good water and the Murray being at good height.

[Morrigu]

https://www.facebook.com/72924719987/po ... 88?sfns=mo

[Wokko]

https://www.facebook.com/72924719987/posts/10160188528299988?sfns=mo

Again, trying to use her age to both shield her message from criticism and hit anyone who dares oppose anyway. Climate alarmists are like a child hiding behind a parent blowing raspberries and taunting.

[think positive]

That video is brilliant! Even if it makes fun of my ladybird hat with solar panels! Seriously anyone who can’t put IKEA furniture together without help is a moron, no wonder they need to yell at a child!

But seriously, why are certain people getting so worked up? How are these changes to positively change the crap humans have done in the past to the planet, negatively impact you?

[David]

Slavoj Zizek has a slightly left-field take on this: he admires Greta Thunberg because she behaves in a "toxically masculine" way.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/stat ... 27649?s=20

[Skids]

The Guardian Plans To Start Using Climate Alarmist Language Instead Of Accurate Scientific Terms

The Guardian based its decision on the use of these terms by several prominent climate scientists, without noting that studies that find a possibility of catastrophe rate that possibility at a low percent. No change or a beneficial change are also possible due to some aspects of climate change, yet the hysteria sells more papers and gets more clicks.

The Guardian is not stopping at these terms, however, and will also change some other words and phrases.

“Other terms that have been updated, including the use of ‘wildlife’ rather than ‘biodiversity,’ ‘fish populations’ instead of ‘fish stocks’ and ‘climate science denier’ rather than ‘climate sceptic,’” the outlet wrote.

Ryan Maue, a meteorologist with a Ph.D., mocked The Guardian on Twitter for the changes.

“Of course, from a scientific and literal point of view, this is idiotic. But if you read the Guardian for your climate change news, then you deserve to be misinformed,” he wrote.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/guardian ... ashe-schow

[Pies4shaw]

That article is 4.5 months old. Since then, it’s gone from emergency to catastrophe - but just keep fiddling.

[Skids]

Yeah rite... this is from the same day as the puppets speech...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GpVBH-HY5Ow&feature=share

[Pies4shaw]

it must be awful to go through life terrified by loud children.