Be careful what you wish for. Newtons 3rd law has wider application than Physics, beware the unintended consequences.David wrote:It (and the broader public service norms it affirms) is a total disgrace, and goes to show how little this country values free speech. We need a bill of rights now.
Personal behaviour vs employment
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stui magpie
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Intrigue and legal strategy on eve of Folau court case
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 52gao.html
"Rugby Australia is seeking to have their unlawful termination fight with Israel Folau moved to the Federal Court or interstate to Sydney.
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The organisation was not immediately available for comment, but the development could be interpreted as a legal strategy to slow proceedings.
As the "little sister" to the Federal Court, the Federal Circuit Court has a track record of moving cases through quicker than its federally-based siblings and at a lower cost."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 52gao.html
"Rugby Australia is seeking to have their unlawful termination fight with Israel Folau moved to the Federal Court or interstate to Sydney.
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The organisation was not immediately available for comment, but the development could be interpreted as a legal strategy to slow proceedings.
As the "little sister" to the Federal Court, the Federal Circuit Court has a track record of moving cases through quicker than its federally-based siblings and at a lower cost."
Folau court date set
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 52gjt.html
"However, Federal Circuit Court Chief Judge Will Alstergren made it clear in court on Tuesday morning that the parties would be expected to attempt mediation by the middle of December.
Folau’s barrister, high profile employment law expert Stuart Wood QC, accused RA of trying to delay proceedings by applying to have the matter moved to the Federal Court or to the Federal Circuit Court’s Sydney base.
“There is no merit in the application and it will only lead to delay and increased costs,” Wood told the court, adding that his team were conscious there would be more attempts to delay proceedings.
“We want the court to know what is going on in the background.”
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Judge Alstergren did not rule on the application but earlier noted that the Federal Circuit Court was the appropriate court for an employment law case and that Folau had a common law right to choose where his case should be heard.
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The court has opened up an online file where select documents - such as any applications made in the case - will be deposited for public viewing."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 52gjt.html
"However, Federal Circuit Court Chief Judge Will Alstergren made it clear in court on Tuesday morning that the parties would be expected to attempt mediation by the middle of December.
Folau’s barrister, high profile employment law expert Stuart Wood QC, accused RA of trying to delay proceedings by applying to have the matter moved to the Federal Court or to the Federal Circuit Court’s Sydney base.
“There is no merit in the application and it will only lead to delay and increased costs,” Wood told the court, adding that his team were conscious there would be more attempts to delay proceedings.
“We want the court to know what is going on in the background.”
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Judge Alstergren did not rule on the application but earlier noted that the Federal Circuit Court was the appropriate court for an employment law case and that Folau had a common law right to choose where his case should be heard.
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The court has opened up an online file where select documents - such as any applications made in the case - will be deposited for public viewing."
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stui magpie
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The Izzy Folau case takes a twist.
He and his brother have been selected to represnt Tonga in a Rugby League tournament. Only problem is, they've gone early thanking the international body for accepting their registration before enyone actually asked the international body.
Australia apparently has 2 seats on the 8 seat international board, I hope we just butt the phuck out. Rugby Aus may have sacked him but this is a different code and a different country, nothing to do with them. Any attempt by Aus officials to stop this is just bullshit.
Let the people offended by his comments fly to Tonga and protest and see how far it gets them
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-24/ ... n/11543820
He and his brother have been selected to represnt Tonga in a Rugby League tournament. Only problem is, they've gone early thanking the international body for accepting their registration before enyone actually asked the international body.
Australia apparently has 2 seats on the 8 seat international board, I hope we just butt the phuck out. Rugby Aus may have sacked him but this is a different code and a different country, nothing to do with them. Any attempt by Aus officials to stop this is just bullshit.
Let the people offended by his comments fly to Tonga and protest and see how far it gets them
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-24/ ... n/11543820
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Revealed: Cheika and Castle in heated clash at Tokyo embassy
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 533jz.html
"Rugby Australia chief executive Raelene Castle was left visibly upset after a heated verbal stoush with Wallabies coach Michael Cheika at a cocktail function at the Australian embassy in Tokyo during the World Cup.
In an incident that was symptomatic of the degenerating relationship between two of Australia's highest-ranking rugby officials, multiple sources have told the Herald that former Wallaby Morgan Turinui was forced to intervene to stop Cheika and Castle tearing into each other in front of dozens of guests at the embassy in Tokyo's Azabu Juban district.
The Herald understands the argument was over Castle's insistence that the Wallabies follow through on their commitment to attend the September 25 function...
Cheika continued to push back, unwilling to send any players, a scenario that would have been a major embarrassment for RA.
In response, sources told the Herald Castle went above Cheika and asked director of rugby Scott Johnson to marshal some players."
[Cheika has already resigned after the worst Australian WC campaign in history. (Japan are now higher ranked in rugby than Australia
.) Castle needs to resign or be fired.]
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 533jz.html
"Rugby Australia chief executive Raelene Castle was left visibly upset after a heated verbal stoush with Wallabies coach Michael Cheika at a cocktail function at the Australian embassy in Tokyo during the World Cup.
In an incident that was symptomatic of the degenerating relationship between two of Australia's highest-ranking rugby officials, multiple sources have told the Herald that former Wallaby Morgan Turinui was forced to intervene to stop Cheika and Castle tearing into each other in front of dozens of guests at the embassy in Tokyo's Azabu Juban district.
The Herald understands the argument was over Castle's insistence that the Wallabies follow through on their commitment to attend the September 25 function...
Cheika continued to push back, unwilling to send any players, a scenario that would have been a major embarrassment for RA.
In response, sources told the Herald Castle went above Cheika and asked director of rugby Scott Johnson to marshal some players."
[Cheika has already resigned after the worst Australian WC campaign in history. (Japan are now higher ranked in rugby than Australia
.) Castle needs to resign or be fired.]Another one like "thoughts of a baby in a child care centre":thesoretoothsayer wrote:Thanks. Looked up both. I do understand the point you are trying to get across.
The angel one seemed a bit twee. However, I saw it more as a comment on society rather than personal philosophy.
The baby one was quite confronting. I see that he's tried to contextualise it:
https://www.facebook.com/MichaelLeunigA ... 669257926/
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-24/ ... 1/11634638
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-24/ ... e/11634522
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thesoretoothsayer
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Another example of an employer thinking it perfectly reasonable to be involved in your life outside of the workplace.
Pretty soon you'll be reporting your daily bowel movements to your manager - "a regular worker is a happy worker"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-24/ ... s/11628792
Pretty soon you'll be reporting your daily bowel movements to your manager - "a regular worker is a happy worker"
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-24/ ... s/11628792
Inside the relationship breakdown that cruelled the Wallabies
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 5347d.html
"Fast forward 20 months, to Castle and Cheika arguing in front of dozens of guests at the Australian Embassy in Tokyo. A heated row, only stopped when another guest, former Wallaby Morgan Turinui, stepped in and told them ... to compose themselves.
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Castle had to do something last year, when the numbers were grim. ...
She and the board ... had three choices. Sack Cheika and replace him with a world-class coach. Sack Cheika and replace him with an interim coach. Or stick with Cheika and bring forward the structural reforms slated for the post-2019 era.
On the first scenario, board and management sources inside Rugby Australia insisted at the time and now that there were no world-class coaches available at the end of last year. That bears scrutiny, given the cyclical nature of coaching movements built around Rugby World Cups.
The second scenario was always possible. ...
But the downsides in both those scenarios were twofold. First there was the cost factor. Cheika was on a base salary of $1.2 million a season. A figure commensurate with the coaches of other tier-one rugby nations, it was not a payout price officials thought was worth the risk.
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But underlying it all was the unmistakable smell of fear. Fear of what a sacked Cheika might say, or do, if the board took the hard road and said enough was enough.
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... Cheika wrote this week ... ‘‘It simply needs to be polished so it can sparkle from under-6s right through to the golden oldies, for those who love the game, by those that love the game.’’
By those who love the game. Cheika’s final dig at his chief executive and a board he believes isn’t close enough to rugby to understand the precious gem with which they’ve been entrusted.
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Castle may yet prove to be a steady hand, but 18 months into her appointment she is yet to convince as a leader."
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 5347d.html
"Fast forward 20 months, to Castle and Cheika arguing in front of dozens of guests at the Australian Embassy in Tokyo. A heated row, only stopped when another guest, former Wallaby Morgan Turinui, stepped in and told them ... to compose themselves.
...
Castle had to do something last year, when the numbers were grim. ...
She and the board ... had three choices. Sack Cheika and replace him with a world-class coach. Sack Cheika and replace him with an interim coach. Or stick with Cheika and bring forward the structural reforms slated for the post-2019 era.
On the first scenario, board and management sources inside Rugby Australia insisted at the time and now that there were no world-class coaches available at the end of last year. That bears scrutiny, given the cyclical nature of coaching movements built around Rugby World Cups.
The second scenario was always possible. ...
But the downsides in both those scenarios were twofold. First there was the cost factor. Cheika was on a base salary of $1.2 million a season. A figure commensurate with the coaches of other tier-one rugby nations, it was not a payout price officials thought was worth the risk.
...
But underlying it all was the unmistakable smell of fear. Fear of what a sacked Cheika might say, or do, if the board took the hard road and said enough was enough.
...
... Cheika wrote this week ... ‘‘It simply needs to be polished so it can sparkle from under-6s right through to the golden oldies, for those who love the game, by those that love the game.’’
By those who love the game. Cheika’s final dig at his chief executive and a board he believes isn’t close enough to rugby to understand the precious gem with which they’ve been entrusted.
...
Castle may yet prove to be a steady hand, but 18 months into her appointment she is yet to convince as a leader."
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David
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Leunig offers a response here, in case anyone’s interested. I think he has a couple of good points, but is really doubling-down on the mystical mother/child stuff. I think it’s a good cautionary tale about the political problem of technophobia, and how it can so easily slide into ignorant, judgemental puritanism.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-a ... 535rf.html
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-a ... 535rf.html
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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David
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Back on the topic of this thread, I feel like there’s a lesson in this story, but I can’t quite work out what it is...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... s-surface/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... s-surface/
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
