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Pies4shaw wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/04/fbi-colorado-synagogue-bomb-plot

Nothing quite like buying explosives from the FBI to put a downer on a would-be pogrom.
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From a purely intellectual standpoint I don't understand why these terrorists of whatever political persuasion go after civilians, it's not a tactic that's ever really worked. Even when done on a fairly large scale (London Blitz for example) it only ever hardens resolve against their views.

Even if white supremacist terrorism managed to inspire others in mass attacks (Brevik was apparently some inspiration for Tarrant) they're not even close compared to the sheer numbers of Islamic terrorists and those guys haven't really gained any ground in their global holy war. Western empathy and immigration policy has done more for the spread of Islam than thousands of suicidal jihadis so what makes white secular terrorists think "this time it's going to work"?
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Pies4shaw wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -bomb-plot

Nothing quite like buying explosives from the FBI to put a downer on a would-be pogrom.
Another white right wing racist male. Who'd a thunk? At least they got the phucker.

But wait there's more:

"White nationalist Richard Spencer, who came to national prominence in the US through his efforts to lend a respectable face to a racist political movement dubbed the “alt-right”, has apparently been caught on tape using racist slurs against African Americans and Jewish people.

The expletive-laden audio recording was released on Sunday by former Breitbart writer, Milo Yiannopoulos on YouTube, amid deepening in-fighting on the far right
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Who'd a thunk :shock: :wink:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... annopoulos
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Wokko, it isn't a "tactic" - it's just another expression of blind "by the numbers" hatred by a white supremacist. Deny the holocaust? Tick. Carry a copy of Mein Kampf? Tick. Join the KKK? Tick. Plan to kill a whole lot of law-abiding people for no possible reason? Tick.

There's no political struggle of any kind in Pueblo, Colorado between the 35 or so families who attend this synagogue and, well, anybody.
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Pies4shaw wrote:Wokko, it isn't a "tactic" - it's just another expression of blind "by the numbers" hatred by a white supremacist. Deny the holocaust? Tick. Carry a copy of Mein Kampf? Tick. Join the KKK? Tick. Plan to kill a whole lot of law-abiding people for no possible reason? Tick.

There's no political struggle of any kind in Pueblo, Colorado between the 35 or so families who attend this synagogue and, well, anybody.
I have it good authority that the 35 or so families who attend the Synagogue are planning to pray on the Sabbath and have chicken soup on Sabbath eve :shock:

The chickens of course are rightfully nervous and planning a liaison with the Turkeys before this years Thanksgiving. If the chickens are nervous what about the Turkeys?
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Pies4shaw wrote:Wokko, it isn't a "tactic" - it's just another expression of blind "by the numbers" hatred by a white supremacist. Deny the holocaust? Tick. Carry a copy of Mein Kampf? Tick. Join the KKK? Tick. Plan to kill a whole lot of law-abiding people for no possible reason? Tick.

There's no political struggle of any kind in Pueblo, Colorado between the 35 or so families who attend this synagogue and, well, anybody.
Nah, I agree with Wokko on both counts, it's a tactic and it generally doesn't work.

I also agree with calling it terrorism.

The only difference between a white supremacist terrorist and an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist is the colour of their underpants. Both have a warped view based on their belief system, both spend time online with like minded imbeciles reinforcing this, both have the IQ of plankton and both believe they're working for a higher calling.

Terrorism and the killing of innocents for a cause has been happening for decades. You'd remember the 70's (1970's) and the IRA and PLO .

Where terrorism does work is it tends to change behaviour, but seldom achieves it's goals apart from that.

For comparison, look at the Vegas shooter or Martin Bryant who both killed a bunch of random people for no apparent reason.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Of course it's terrorism. It's the complete lack of any viable, goal-directed behaviour to it that I don't get.

It wouldn't be in any way better if there were a discernible purpose - but at least it might be explicable as something other than a pointless and vindictive manifestation of mouth-breathing hatred.
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Ah, yes, now we have the Anti-Greta. A nice blonde girl from Germany who hates climate science and likes white nationalists. Why do these things go together (that's rhetorical, of course - we all know why)? - it's like a cluster of knee-jerk prejudices.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... nspiration
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That article is such a load of cringy, reaching nonsense. I'm sure the simpering liberal left who read the Guardian got a warm fuzzy from it though.
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It's pretty straight-forward, really. Have a crack at this, then:

https://www.france24.com/en/20200227-ge ... ge-deniers
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"Girl nobody has heard of is asked to talk by a group nobody has heard of, here's a video with less than 200k views.

Looks like climate doomsdayers and Greta cultists looking for a boogieman.
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You've got a point there somewhere?
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There certainly is a particular constellation of brain dysfunctions that are almost always associated with white supremacism. It seems to be necessary to deny basic scientific knowledge in unrelated areas in order to be genuinely xenophobic.
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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