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Early doors we got info from sports people but in this switched on no place to hide world it be easy peasy to google up correct stats

Stat that dominates my senses is this
1958 we reached 13 flags
Scum on 8 flag at that stage (as Bummers)
Stats 2019 we have gained 2 flags

Scum and Bummers gained 8 flags

I hate that stat considering we have been to the well many times since ‘58
I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right
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We’ve won 15 of our last 20 against them.
Going back further and it 27 wins out of the last 50.

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/collingwood/last20.html
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^ That's a little disappointing. Carlton are the worst team of this century.
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Presti35 wrote:And yeah, AFL tables is the best thing on the net. And I have a life, I swear.
Agree 100%. Fantastic website.

Always rely on it for all things stats.
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thebaldfacts wrote:We dropped behind a long way during the 90's.

What has been the win/loss since 2000?

Played close to 40 times and we probably have won at least 66% of the time I would have thought.
Some interesting stats:

- We won our first seven h2h clashes against Carlton.
- Our largest h2h lead against them was 15 games (19-4) in 1905.
- Carlton overtook us in the h2h lead for the first time in 1943 when it was 50-2-51.
- We regained the lead in 1953 when it was 61-2-60, and we had a 6 win lead in 1965.
- Carlton took the lead again in 1976 when it was 81-4-82, before we regained it soon after in 1977.
- Carlton took the lead again 1980, before we regained it again in 1981.
- Carlton took the lead in 1982 which we haven't been able to regain since then.
- The biggest lead Carlton has had in the h2h is 14 wins (103-4-117) in 2002.
- W-L record since 2000 is Collingwood 25-13 Carlton.
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Most gawling to me games late in Sept of
1970
1979
1981
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Thanx to everyone for your input, much appreciated.
Thought the Wiki stats looked a bit suss.
Lets smack the Scums arse !!!

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We're close to leading all head to head games against each club. Head-to-head in finals and Grand Finals is a different story. But Melbourne and Carlton aside, we're no more than one or 2 behind other clubs.

GRAND FINALS:
North Melbourne, West Coast -1.

Geelong, Brisbane -2

Carlton -4

Melbourne -5

I doubt we'll all live to see these equaled, but to win a couple more and take the overall flag lead whilst making up for a couple of these might happen for us.

FINALS:

Brisbane, Hawthorn, Richmond -1

St Kilda -2

Essendon -4

Carlton -6

Melbourne -11

Stuck owing Fitzroy 2.

ALL-AROUND GAMES:

Carlton -1

Brisbane -2

West Coast -3
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Jezza wrote:...
Some interesting stats:

- We won our first seven h2h clashes against Carlton.
- Our largest h2h lead against them was 15 games (19-4) in 1905.
- Carlton overtook us in the h2h lead for the first time in 1943 when it was 50-2-51.
- We regained the lead in 1953 when it was 61-2-60, and we had a 6 win lead in 1965.
- Carlton took the lead again in 1976 when it was 81-4-82, before we regained it soon after in 1977.
- Carlton took the lead again 1980, before we regained it again in 1981.
- Carlton took the lead in 1982 which we haven't been able to regain since then.
- The biggest lead Carlton has had in the h2h is 14 wins (103-4-117) in 2002.
- W-L record since 2000 is Collingwood 25-13 Carlton.
Good stuff, Jezza. (Well, they paint a bleak picture, but you know what I mean.) Did you compile these by hand?
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Jezza wrote:
Presti35 wrote:And yeah, AFL tables is the best thing on the net. And I have a life, I swear.
Agree 100%. Fantastic website.

Always rely on it for all things stats.
wow, thanks for the link, i think! this could be bad for productivity!!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Oh, it is. Trust me.
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Jezza wrote:
thebaldfacts wrote:We dropped behind a long way during the 90's.

What has been the win/loss since 2000?

Played close to 40 times and we probably have won at least 66% of the time I would have thought.
Some interesting stats:

- We won our first seven h2h clashes against Carlton.
- Our largest h2h lead against them was 15 games (19-4) in 1905.
- Carlton overtook us in the h2h lead for the first time in 1943 when it was 50-2-51.
- We regained the lead in 1953 when it was 61-2-60, and we had a 6 win lead in 1965.
- Carlton took the lead again in 1976 when it was 81-4-82, before we regained it soon after in 1977.
- Carlton took the lead again 1980, before we regained it again in 1981.
- Carlton took the lead in 1982 which we haven't been able to regain since then.
- The biggest lead Carlton has had in the h2h is 14 wins (103-4-117) in 2002.
- W-L record since 2000 is Collingwood 25-13 Carlton.
Thanks for the hard work in putting this together.

Does show that this century has been enjoyable winning 2 out of every 3 against the Blues.
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sixpoints wrote:We’ve won 15 of our last 20 against them.
Going back further and it 27 wins out of the last 50.

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/collingwood/last20.html
The Malthouse era at the Blues was a beauty. Think we won all 6.
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K wrote:Good stuff, Jezza. (Well, they paint a bleak picture, but you know what I mean.) Did you compile these by hand?
Yes, K.

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thebaldfacts wrote:The Malthouse era at the Blues was a beauty. Think we won all 6.
Won all 5, but we remained unbeaten against him.

Round 2 2013 = Collingwood 117-100 Carlton
Round 15 2013 = Carlton 77-118 Collingwood
Round 7 2014 = Carlton 70-104 Collingwood
Round 15 2014 = Collingwood 91-76 Carlton
Round 5 2015 = Carlton 45-120 Collingwood
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