Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic

[think positive]

Yes TP, and different people have different customs so calling for the closure of markets because they upset your sensibilities is hardly a compelling argument. So what if they eat bats, snakes and rats? Who are we to tell them what they can and can't eat??

Sorry I take offence when they have mans best friend in too small cages next to where they are killing more mans best friends in cold blood in front of them, but hey David wants to visit the Yulen festival the supposed celebration of dogs where they still up this day throw live screaming dogs into boiling water and skin them alive while they scream in agony because apparently the adrenaline tastes better. Think about that while you pat Fido tonight. Utter scum

[Morrigu]

Yes TP, and different people have different customs so calling for the closure of markets because they upset your sensibilities is hardly a compelling argument. So what if they eat bats, snakes and rats? Who are we to tell them what they can and can't eat??

Blatant animal cruelty is a bit more than upsetting one's sensibilities I would of thought

They can eat whatever they like and then when they contract transmissable diseases as a result they can stay in their own country and not spread it around the world because of their medieval barbaric practices.

Slow learners too it seems -

" SARS was thought to have originated in masked palm civets and traced to a market in the southeastern Guangdong province. ... Despite its name, the market was selling a huge variety of wild animals for consumption, including live cats and dogs, turtles, snakes, rats, hedgehogs and marmots"

Experts say the country is paying a heavy price after the government failed to learn one of the most important lessons of the SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) epidemic 17 years ago: that diseases can easily mutate and spread to humans in markets where different species of live wild animals are kept in proximity, often in unhygienic conditions.

Peter Knights, founder of ­WildAid, said the current crisis might have been averted if the ban after SARS had been permanent. “Surely it’s time for an advanced country like China to reassess the viability of a tiny industry that risks global pandemic, national image, animal cruelty and conservation concerns,” he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/as ... story.html

[Wokko]

https://nationalfile.com/china-posts-vi ... 2Slb8x6qU0

[Morrigu]

that market is barbaric, disgusting, and IMO should be shut down, what kind of government allows that shit? it goes way past cross contamination. its animal cruelty. and anyone who allows that kind of cruelty can drop dead as far as im concerned, is that generic enough for you?

Absolutely spot on!!!!

[Wonka]

Like Mad Cow Disease!!!

[Morrigu]

Like Mad Cow Disease!!!

Big difference between a prion and a virus! Humans don’t get Mad cow disease - rarely they may get variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) through the consumption of nerve tissue from infected cows or possibly through iatrogenic transmission from implantation or theoretically transfusion etc -it is not transmitted by direct contact, or by droplet and airborne spread unlike coronavirus and so it won’t cause an epidemic and certainly not a pandemic!

[pietillidie]

These things can be startling, but let's remember that progress on many fronts now takes a few decades rather than a few centuries. This is something to thank mercy for, not a chance to lambaste people.

The ability to make mental adjustments even for confronting facts is the impulse control test of our day.

[watt price tully]

Like Mad Cow Disease!!!

Big difference between a prion and a virus! Humans don’t get Mad cow disease - rarely they may get variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) through the consumption of nerve tissue from infected cows or possibly through iatrogenic transmission from implantation or theoretically transfusion etc -it is not transmitted by direct contact, or by droplet and airborne spread unlike coronavirus and so it won’t cause an epidemic and certainly not a pandemic!

On a sad but brilliant note, we have a psychiatric registrar who when a pt was referred to us in the ED said the case was medical and neurology basically said f*ck off it is psychiatry. One of the ED consultants owed the reg a favour and arranged for an MRI of the young man (white caucasian australian mid 30’s) which unfortunately confirmed the diagnosis of Bronwyn Bishop disease, sorry mad cow, sorry CJD. Needless to say Neorology steps in and says f*ck off psychiatry; he’s ours.
Poor bastard died 2 weeks later and had a young family too.

[K]

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Poor bastard died 2 weeks later and had a young family too.

Do they have any idea how he contracted it?

[K]

[watt price tully]

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Poor bastard died 2 weeks later and had a young family too.

Do they have any idea how he contracted it?

I don’t recall as it was a while ago, I think he was overseas at the time but I wasn’t directly involved.

Then again it’s a risk meat eaters take. Intensive agriculture/animal husbandry/ industrial scale agriculture is gunna do that

[stui magpie]

[K]

Fairfax/Reuters.

China's info was probably for China, not for Europe.

[David]

On the "wet market" origin theory:

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/27/do ... han-virus/

But as it turns out, the market may not have been the cause of the outbreak at all. A new study shows that the early known victims had no contact with the market. And although the virus, at present, does seem to have originated in bats, it’s unclear how it made its way to humans. It’s quite likely no chowing down on the creatures of the night was involved.

[Wokko]

What more likely, weird mutated bat/snake virus that's unlike any other virus ever or something escaped from the bioweapons lab in the same city?