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Who do you hope wins the US Election?

Trump
9
39%
Biden
9
39%
Don't Care
5
22%
 
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Pies4shaw wrote:Klobuchar has reportedly pulled the pin and is said to be about to endorse Biden. Buttigieg is apparently thinking of endorsing Biden also.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... ve-updates
Interesting to revisit the polling posted by Jezza above with Klobuchar and Buttigieg taken out of the equation. It's reasonable to presume that the lion's share of their votes goes to Biden, but some will go to Bloomberg and Warren and it's not inconceivable that a small percentage could go to Sanders (also, 2 million people have already voted in Super Tuesday states, which will both blunt Biden's momentum and mean that Buttigieg and Klobuchar are still stealing votes from him).

Here are my (by now, total kiss of death) predictions for tomorrow:

Sanders wins California, Colorado, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Texas (narrowly), Utah and Vermont (978 delegates on offer)
Biden wins Alabama, Arkansas, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Virginia and American Samoa (404 delegates on offer)

Some outside chance that Warren picks up enough Klobuchar/Buttigieg votes to take Massachusetts, but I have a feeling that the anti-Sanders vote will be split too many ways there (and that one's a big deal, as Warren probably drops out if she loses her home state). Minnesota will be interesting given that Klobuchar was on track to win that; in theory most of her votes now go to Biden, but he was polling in single digits, so I find it hard to see him getting over Sanders, who was running a clear second. One of the only two big states I have down for Biden is Virginia, but Bloomberg (who was running second behind Sanders in a recent poll) could turn out to be an effective spoiler there; I suspect Biden will have no problems in North Carolina, though.
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Interesting. Perhaps his endorsement of Biden (happening as I write this) will change these figures, but certainly suggests that it's nowhere near the direct transfer of support that Biden would have been hoping for.

https://www.newsweek.com/pete-buttigieg ... on-1489969
Twenty-one percent of Buttigieg supporters who participated in the poll, which saw a total of 13,428 Democratic primary voters surveyed, said they would go for Sanders as a second choice.

However, the other top candidates in the Democratic race did not fall far behind in claiming support from the Buttigieg base.

Nineteen percent of Buttigieg supporters said they would they would support former Vice President Joe Biden, while the same share said they would throw their weight behind Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, if the former mayor were to drop out of the race.

Seventeen percent said they would back former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg.
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https://www.facebook.com/DonaldJTrumpJr ... 865286480/

This doesn't even include "Dog faced pony soldier" or the "kids rubbing my leg hairs" doozies.
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If he’s like this now, imagine what he’ll be like in six months’ time debating Donald Trump, let alone as president for four years, because conditions like this only get worse with time. I don’t want to be mean, but it’s ridiculous that any discussion of the man’s cognitive faculties should be taboo. He’s running for the most powerful job in the world, and he sounds like he doesn’t even know what day of the week it is half the time. If Sanders’ heart attack is fair game, then this should be too.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... mit-gaffes
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^

Ah, Yup.

Seriously, the USA has a minimum age to be POTUS and VPOTUS, they maybe should think about scrapping those and putting in a maximum age instead. Someone near 80 may still have most of their marbles but they're rapidly going to end up with an empty bag.

All of Biden, Sanders and Bloomberg would be 78+ on taking office if elected. Trump would be approaching 78 when his second term ended.

So go youth, vote Trump. :shock: :P :lol:
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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Early onset of dementia excepted, I guess?
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We talking you or Trump?
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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At this point Tulsi is just about the only non-grandparent running. She’s always been the hottest candidate; now she might be the only one left who still has her real teeth!
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Bloomberg and Gabbard finished first and second in American Samoa. :shock:

Biden's won big in Virginia and looks like winning North Carolina. Sanders has held Vermont easily.
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They've called North Carolina for Biden.
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Tulsi's won a delegate which means she's back on the debate stage. Take that DNC :lol:
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Lol, that's amazing if true.

God, American news is insufferable. I'm watching CBSN so that I don't have to put up with CNN or MSNBC, and already feel like I'm getting brain worms.
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Bloomberg is a Republican and shouldn't even be in consideration by the Democrats.

It's embarrassing that once again money can buy you a shot at becoming the President.

Sad that not much seemingly separates moderate Democrats and Republicans with both sides more interested in retaining the status quo of corporate America and the powerful interest groups behind it.
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swoop42 wrote:Bloomberg is a Republican and shouldn't even be in consideration by the Democrats.

It's embarrassing that once again money can buy you a shot at becoming the President.

Sad that not much seemingly separates moderate Democrats and Republicans with both sides more interested in retaining the status quo of corporate America and the powerful interest groups behind it.
He's the "evil billionaire" that the left claim Trump to be. Trump won on the issues, spent way less than Hillary and knocked everyone out on the campaign trail and debate stage. Bloomberg is way, way richer than Trump and is throwing money like crazy at whoever will take it, trying to buy the election while being the most insipid campaigner and pathetic debater I've ever seen (Jeb was bad too, but in a likeable loser kind of way).
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