What do you have in common with me dude? I'm a coloured liberal waaay to the left than you? Please explain!Wokko wrote:You're completely wrong here, black conservatives of both genders are welcomed with open arms by the right. Your ignorant caricature of Trump voters is nonsense. I'm a right winger, waaaay to the right and I have more in common with an African American conservative than I do with you and other white liberals.
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Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine!
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Wokko wrote:Joe Biden really just said:
"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldJTrumpJr ... 234063803/
https://twitter.com/RyanAFournier/statu ... 5114034177
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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You're both anti-PC.Lazza wrote:What do you have in common with me dude? I'm a coloured liberal waaay to the left than you? Please explain!Wokko wrote:You're completely wrong here, black conservatives of both genders are welcomed with open arms by the right. Your ignorant caricature of Trump voters is nonsense. I'm a right winger, waaaay to the right and I have more in common with an African American conservative than I do with you and other white liberals.
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You both have super-Aussie usernames with five letters, for one.Lazza wrote:What do you have in common with me dude? I'm a coloured liberal waaay to the left than you? Please explain!Wokko wrote:You're completely wrong here, black conservatives of both genders are welcomed with open arms by the right. Your ignorant caricature of Trump voters is nonsense. I'm a right winger, waaaay to the right and I have more in common with an African American conservative than I do with you and other white liberals.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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I was making a point about sharing politics with someone being more important than their race in finding common ground. Where these guys are making constant racial references I prefer to see people in light of their character. I don't care if someone's an "85 IQ White" or "Coloured Liberal" or "Black Conservative", someone who is a conservative will find way more common ground with me regardless of their race than someone who's an arrogant piece of shit who is an intellectual peanut that thinks they're Plato.Lazza wrote:What do you have in common with me dude? I'm a coloured liberal waaay to the left than you? Please explain!Wokko wrote:You're completely wrong here, black conservatives of both genders are welcomed with open arms by the right. Your ignorant caricature of Trump voters is nonsense. I'm a right winger, waaaay to the right and I have more in common with an African American conservative than I do with you and other white liberals.
As to your question, from what I can gather you care more about who someone is and what they have to say rather than their 'identity'. I'd need to get to know you personally a lot better to answer fully though. Mostly a love of Collingwood though
There’s no need for you to be so hard on yourself.Wokko wrote:I was making a point about sharing politics with someone being more important than their race in finding common ground. Where these guys are making constant racial references I prefer to see people in light of their character. I don't care if someone's an "85 IQ White" or "Coloured Liberal" or "Black Conservative", someone who is a conservative will find way more common ground with me regardless of their race than someone who's an arrogant piece of shit who is an intellectual peanut that thinks they're Plato.Lazza wrote:What do you have in common with me dude? I'm a coloured liberal waaay to the left than you? Please explain!Wokko wrote:You're completely wrong here, black conservatives of both genders are welcomed with open arms by the right. Your ignorant caricature of Trump voters is nonsense. I'm a right winger, waaaay to the right and I have more in common with an African American conservative than I do with you and other white liberals.
As to your question, from what I can gather you care more about who someone is and what they have to say rather than their 'identity'. I'd need to get to know you personally a lot better to answer fully though. Mostly a love of Collingwood though
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The Democrats have values that would, for the most part, sit comfortably with most Australians who voted for Morrison’s LNP Government, here. They were never going to “unite” behind Sanders if he purported to offer any “genuine”, “revolutionary” alternative.
The bigger question the Democrats should be asking themselves is why they suddenly can’t identify a suitably electable candidate in a population of 300 million people who is not likely to become an octogenarian while in office.
The bigger question the Democrats should be asking themselves is why they suddenly can’t identify a suitably electable candidate in a population of 300 million people who is not likely to become an octogenarian while in office.
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I actually agree with P4S on the Democrats not being a left wing or progressive party, (one of us may have concussion) and also on the age thing.
The real issue for the Democrats for mine, and I may have said this before, is that I think they're at risk of losing their identity.
Both the Democrats and Republicans are right of centre on most issues on any balanced view. The Democrats are more socially progressive and have attracted the growing core of left wingers who have no where else to go.
Now it's all well and good for the Democrats to accept these people and pay lip service to their ideals in return for votes, it's a different discussion when they want influence over party ideals and direction, let alone control.
Also, being "Left Wing" in the USA covers a varied collection of ideals depending whether you're talking social, economic, both or blended. So you potentially have a number of forces in battle for the soul of the party for which the only guaranteed lose is the current establishment.
It may actually be in the parties best interest that Biden loses to Trump and they are forced to look in the mirror and reinvent themselves .
The real issue for the Democrats for mine, and I may have said this before, is that I think they're at risk of losing their identity.
Both the Democrats and Republicans are right of centre on most issues on any balanced view. The Democrats are more socially progressive and have attracted the growing core of left wingers who have no where else to go.
Now it's all well and good for the Democrats to accept these people and pay lip service to their ideals in return for votes, it's a different discussion when they want influence over party ideals and direction, let alone control.
Also, being "Left Wing" in the USA covers a varied collection of ideals depending whether you're talking social, economic, both or blended. So you potentially have a number of forces in battle for the soul of the party for which the only guaranteed lose is the current establishment.
It may actually be in the parties best interest that Biden loses to Trump and they are forced to look in the mirror and reinvent themselves .
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.