The 'me too' movement

[David]

[stui magpie]

^

I read some of it, I suspect there's little extraordinary about it.

Confidential settlements have been a way of resolving both fake and genuine claims for ages. People do fake allegations for all sorts of reasons, not always obvious, and social media now just makes it so easy to slander someone

[David]

When your own slogan comes back to bite you:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/opin ... women.html

(For what it’s worth, I think trying to argue for a distinction between "believe women" and "believe all women" is disingenuous hair-splitting; as someone mused on Twitter in response, are we supposed to interpret "black lives matter" as referring to only "some black lives in certain situations"? No, because it’s a categorical statement and broadly interpreted as such. If not, there would have been no justification for outrage over Trump saying "Mexicans are rapists", etc.)

[stui magpie]

This one is being twisted because of how Tara Reade's allegations were seemingly treated different by media because of who she accused and that allegations against someone who the media is less sympathetic to get more traction.

Personally I don't care for these glib hashtags such as "Believe Women" or Black lives matter", they're 21st century bumper stickers only less permanent.

All lives should matter and anyone who makes allegations of mistreatment should be believed in the context that their complaint should be taken seriously and investigated, but not in the context that it removes or over rides the presumption of innocence of the accused.

In these days of trial by social media you're going to get different treatment of different people by different groups and they'll all throw names and insults at each other .

[Wokko]

The liberal left in the USA are a vile bunch. "I believe Biden raped Tara Reade but I'm voting for him anyway" for example and just about every iteration of hypocrite before and after articles re: Kavanaugh and Biden.

Happy to use sexual assault allegations to destroy a man on the Right while actively suppressing, denying, minimizing allegations against the Left.

I've seen some Bernie supporters and Socialists be far more ethical but it seems they've become nothing but voices in the wilderness. I still think that the Establishment Democrats will use this as an excuse to dump Joe and install Hillary once it becomes apparent he's entirely unelectable but they may just be happy to throw 2020 and put up whoever they really want in 2024 who will, in the absence of another Trump style populaist, romp to victory. Not too many two termers lead into another President from the same side.

[K]

N.F.L. Player Sues United Airlines, Saying Woman Sexually Assaulted Him on a Flight

The player, who was not named in the suit, said the woman sitting next to him on a redeye flight from Los Angeles to Newark also ripped off the face mask that he was wearing to protect against the coronavirus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/us/n ... wsuit.html

[David]

[Wokko]

Something tells me a paymaster got on the phone and yanked him back into line.

[stui magpie]

Of course it's pathetic, it's also the current reality where allegations are sufficient to ruin careers as is deviating from the party line.

[David]

[Wokko]

Because it's not about the issue it's about the power and control. If you can silence a dissenter, even a very mild one like the example you gave within 24 hours then you can silence anybody.

Mel Gibson was silenced for over a decade, it took Robert Downey Jr standing up for him at a time when RDJ was untouchable. Kevin Spacey will probably never be mentioned by the industry again and his back catalogue will be hidden behind the counter like a porno in the 80s. Who'd dare stand up for Spacey these days?

[stui magpie]

Not The Hedgehog,

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/23/ente ... index.html

[ronrat]

Not The Hedgehog,

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/23/ente ... index.html

Be a great case to be on jury duty. Jury selection will be a hoot

[stui magpie]

Just don't try his signature move with any fellow jurors.

[think positive]

Isthis just about sexual harassment or physical abuse too?

I just read allegations on Derry. Hitches page about Peter Brock beating the crap out of his wife, at least one of them. I’ve never heard this before. I feel like I just got gut punched by Ali.