#2 Jordan De Goey

Magpietothemax · Post by **Magpietothemax** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:58 pm

My God.
Another catastrophe for CFC.
It is as if we are cursed by the Gods.
Their fury is impossible to resist.

What'sinaname · Post by **What'sinaname** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:00 pm

Cox Varcoe needs to be split from this thread.

Raw Hammer · Post by **Raw Hammer** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:03 pm

Might explain JDG’s poor form this season. Mind elsewhere.

What'sinaname · Post by **What'sinaname** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:03 pm

If this Ryan McIvor posts here or if anyone knows this piece of shit, tell him to go and <snip - you get the idea>.

BEAMER09 · Post by **BEAMER09** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:07 pm

TIME for Ed and Bucks to RESIGN...pathetic

ANNODAM · Post by **ANNODAM** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:07 pm

What'sinaname wrote:If this Ryan McIvor posts here or if anyone knows this piece of shit, tell him to go and <snip - you get the idea>.

Yeah that was bad form!

Post by **stui magpie** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:16 pm

BEAMER09 wrote:TIME for Ed and Bucks to RESIGN...pathetic

Why?

The allegation goes back to 2015, it was investigated by Vic Police and the AFL in 2018 (which is hardly covering things up) and now clearly something new had come to light and the Police have decided to press charges.

What's pathetic?

Magpietothemax · Post by **Magpietothemax** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:17 pm

The Herald Sun understands that De Goey and Collingwood were blindsided by the prospect of fresh charges until today, having considered the matter over since the 2018 investigations yielded no charges.

According to HS, we knew nothing about JDG being charged until today. Not sure that this is credible.

Piesnchess · Post by **Piesnchess** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:21 pm

Five long years ago, why has this shit been dredged up now, after five bloody years ???? I heard nothing bout this on the news today, or in footy news.

K · Post by K » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:24 pm

stui magpie wrote:... the Club obviously got on the front foot, naming him in a statement before the media could.

No, they didn't. The statement came after the media reports.

Mr Miyagi · Post by **Mr Miyagi** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:24 pm

The timing is very suspect. Additionally (and this MUST be emphasised in bold):

The statement claims: “Collingwood player Jordan De Goey was today charged with one count of indecent assault relating to an historical incident in 2015.

“ At Collingwood’s insistence, and with full co-operation from De Goey, the matter was investigated by the AFL integrity unit and Victoria Police in 2018. No charges were laid.[/b]

Post by **Cam** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:25 pm

Wait for the detail before getting too carried away.

Sexual Assault and the Defence of Consent (Vic) ... Indecent assault was defined as intentionally touching a person in indecent circumstances and without lawful justification, where the accused was aware the complainant was not consenting or might not be consenting

The offence which used to be known as indecent assault in Victoria was replaced with an offence known as sexual assault in 2015. This offence, which is governed by Section 40 of the Crimes Act, is defined slightly differently to how indecent assault was defined, however both offences comprise non-consensual sexual touching which falls short of sexual penetration. Sexual penetration without consent is rape and is governed by Section 38.

Sexual assault

A person who commits sexual assault under Section 40 of the Crimes Act is punishable by a maximum penalty of level 5 imprisonment (10 years). The four elements that the prosecution must prove for a court to find a person guilty of sexual assault are as follows.
The accused intentionally touched the complainant in the way alleged

The accused must have intentionally touched the complainant in a conscious act, voluntarily and deliberately. Any touching, no matter how slight, is enough to satisfy this element. Further, touching can be done with any part of a person’s body or with an object and can be done through anything, including clothing. If a person causes another person or animal to touch the complainant, this element is satisfied.
The touching was sexual

The touching must be sexual. This element is satisfied if the genital or anal area, buttocks or breasts of either the complainant or the accused are involved in the touching. The touching can also be sexual in nature if the person doing the touching seeks or gets sexual gratification from the touching. This element can also be satisfied in considering the circumstances in which the touching occurred.
The complainant did not consent to the touching

The prosecution must prove that the touching occurred without the complainant’s consent. Consent is recognised as a state of mind. Thus, the prosecution must prove that the complainant did not freely agree to being touched by the accused at the time.
The accused did not reasonably believe that the complainant consented to the touching

The prosecution must prove that at the time of the act, the accused did not reasonably believe that the complainant was consenting. This element can be satisfied by establishing any of the following:

That the accused believed the complainant was not consenting;
That the accused gave no thought as to whether the complainant was consenting;
That the accused believed the complainant was consenting, but that belief was not reasonable;

Proof that the offender had any of these three states of mind is enough to fulfill the mental element of the offence.

Piesnchess · Post by **Piesnchess** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:25 pm

Magpietothemax wrote:The Herald Sun understands that De Goey and Collingwood were blindsided by the prospect of fresh charges until today, having considered the matter over since the 2018 investigations yielded no charges.

According to HS, we knew nothing about JDG being charged until today. Not sure that this is credible.

I dont believe much in the Murdoch rag the HUN, these days.

ANNODAM · Post by **ANNODAM** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:26 pm

They might have new evidence that needs further investigating.
There are many criminals who have been charged years after, 5yrs is nothing...
<snip - Let's not speculate groundlessly about what exactly he is alleged to have done - thanks BBMods>

Piesnchess · Post by **Piesnchess** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:28 pm

Mr Miyagi wrote:The timing is very suspect. Additionallly:

The statement claims: “Collingwood player Jordan De Goey was today charged with one count of indecent assault relating to an historical incident in 2015.

“At Collingwood’s insistence, and with full co-operation from De Goey, the matter was investigated by the AFL integrity unit and Victoria Police in 2018. No charges were laid.

AND that should end the matter, over, done. I have not heard of this crap on any news service all day today, not even twitter had it, or facebook. not ABC 24 news, or 3AW, usually a Magpie hating station at best of times. I smell a big fat rat here, this stinks like a three day old fish left in the fridge.

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#2 Jordan De Goey