My magpie's on the front of the new official site!!!!

[Nick]

One of the risks of running a fan site is that if you use logos etc. that are the property of the Club and/or the AFL they can demand that you remove them. For that reason several years ago we requested permission from both the Club and the AFL to use Club logos, but we never received a reply from either of them so we drew our own.

The logos we drew were obviously Collingwood logos and probably didn't make any difference to the ownership problem, but we felt better about using them.

When we drew them we made a few changes:

• We straightened out that ugly twisted beak on the official version
• We changed the colour of the wheat from gold to olive green (we didn't know it was wheat then)
• We added shadow
• We changed the dimensions (slightly taller and narrower than the more rounded shape of the genuine logo)
• and we changed the colour of the weed stalks at the bottom to brown (because we didn't know it was wheat and thuoght that it was crossed sticks)

Anyway, the reason for this story is that when I looked at the new site last night, what did I see heading the site? None other than my magpie, with all our changes intact. What an honour .

Compare for yourself:


Compare this to the image below and then to the official logo at the bottom.


The logo drawn by us from the front of this site. The border was added to fit the site design.


An official logo from the old official site.

[Nick]

I should add that Collingwood are running a distant second. Sly did us the honour of using the logo on the front of the Collingwood Rant months ago.

[Sly]

When I was informed that the Official CFC Website was finally up, well I just hadda check.

When I got there, I thought I'd accidentally hit the Bookmark for this Site.

Not just the logo, but the layout and presentation are extremely similar. To me, it really looks like a "knock-off".

I wonder whether those responsible searched the Web for Fansites, lifted the best one they found (in this case, this one!) and simply modified it to accommodate the foundation for their Site.

Sue, Nick! Demand that Brad Smith be delisted. (He's become Number 1 FUBAR at Collingwood for me ahead of Stephen Patterson).

At least, though, you can take comfort from the adage of, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

Still, though, they don't an inkling on this Site.

[Nick]

Sly

Sue for a delisting? That would have been a very handy option during the last two seasons, but this year is different.

One of the reasons that I don't get into the debates on this or Hotrod's board very often is that I find it very difficult to form fast and concrete opinions.

I don't have an opinion on Brad Smith. I've really only seeen him play one game and admittedly he was very unimpressive, but I'm only a spectator and I have to have faith in the people on the spot and in the know. I am very sure that Brad Smith is not going to get games unless Mick Malthouse can see something that is worth developing.

One of the problems that I had with the Tony Shaw debate was that it was easy for us to find the flaws and the solutions. Our solutions never had to be tested in a match, in front of the footy public who always knew better, so we never really knew whether they were worth the time we spent thinking them up.

The same still applies. We have our coach, lets see what he can do with what he's got, he's the one with the reputation on the line - and the reputation is fairly impressive.

Don't get me wrong, I love it. All the opinions and the fighting and the slander and the crap - so don't stop for God's sake.

But I may choose to read it and then ignore it.

[Sly]

I will usually try to find something redeeming in any player. I even thought they could have worked on Wild for another year under the new regime, and while I'm not the biggest fan of Patterson, I said in my Player Overview Rant a fortnight ago that he'd sit nicely in the Forward-pocket.

It's easy to criticize Shaw because I tend to think he became a "reactive" Coach as opposed to an "active" Coach. He responded to the opposition Coach's moves, played Buckley and Williams on halfback to "react" to the play, and so on.

Early on, he was a very attacking Coach. I think he could have been a great Coach... had he gone away - like Eade, Wallace, etc. - away for several years to serve an apprenticeship. As he was, he was immediately out of his depth, as validated by his lack of answers when things fell apart on him in three consecutive Junes.

Brad Smith is a Log. He needs complete reworking. He has the height, fitness and attitude, but he's shown me no indication that he'll amount to anything under his current direction. He needs to be stripped bare and then recreated by a respectable Ruck-coach, like a Simon Madden or Jim Stynes.

I tend to wonder if Smith - who at one stage was reported "delisted", but survived until the deadline last year - would have remained on the List had Monkhorst decided to remain at Collingwood and play with "limited opportunities."

And while I'm talking about specialist coaches... get Daicos down there to teach the Forwards how to lead and kick!


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[Joel]

I think someone has already mentioned this, BUT the collingwood site is basically the same as the carlton site. i know that they are made bythe same groups, but i thought they would be a little bit different at least!

[Joel]

Ive also noticed that the Collingwood Officall site and the Carlton one BOTH have the same feedback mail e-ddress. pleman@bigpond.net.au

[Kathryn]

I check out both Collingwood and Carlton's websites yesterday. Apart from the colour schemes they are EXACTLY the same and seem to be being developed at the same time. Neither seem to be complete as yet.

To add insult to injury, when I checked out the postcard section of the COLLINGWOOD website, the only postcard they had to view was Craig Bradleys Jumper!

[Mike]

See my post on this:

http://www.magpies.org.au/nick/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000054.html

[Mike]

Hawthorn's Sportsview 'Under Construction' page disappeared over the weekend and the old site came back up.

Their official site url is http://www.hawthornfc.com.au

Their Sportsview site is at: http://www.hawthornfc.com.au/index.htm

[Nick]

Well that was exciting for a little while. The logo has been replaced.

[Pie no sauce]

,,,i wonder if Vizard will effect a knowledge transfer to the CFC during the incubation period so the site will eventually become CFC owned and customised.