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doriswilgus wrote:Well,I’m glad that Biden is on track to win.I’m not really a Biden fan,I think he’s probably too old to be President .Bit he does seem to be a decent and honest man,unlike Trump who couldn’t tell the truth if his life depended on it.

I mean, really,did you see his performance last. night?Falsely claiming that he had won the election without all the votes being counted and then making absolutely baseless claims about voter fraud.Honestly,what a child.I know six year old kids who are more mature than he is.That little performance proved,if you ever needed any further evidence,that he is not fit to be the President of the U.S.
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I think there's one thing we can all agree on.

The polling industry is finished. Apart from a small few, most of them have no credibility.
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David wrote:Saw this in an update from The Guardian:
The Associated Press and other news organizations including Fox News declared Biden the victor in Arizona yesterday, but Trump has been inching closer to a tie.
Inching closer to a ... what? :lol:
A Tie is a theoretically possible result, 269 Electoral College places each, but not the way this is set up.

Trump has been steadily gaining in Arizona and Nevada but losing ground in Pennsylvania and Georgia. He came from behind in Nth Carolina.

it's also still possible for Trump to win but Biden is in the box seat.
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Tannin wrote:Worst case, Trump gets 265 (that's giving him Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania) leaving Biden with 270 and a win despite the Republican gerrymander.
Actually, as it sits right now, Biden is on 253 and Trump 214.
Sez who? Arizona is safe for Biden with a 3% advantage. Late-counted votes tend Democrat in this election, so more than 3% is likely.
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stui magpie wrote:
David wrote:Saw this in an update from The Guardian:
The Associated Press and other news organizations including Fox News declared Biden the victor in Arizona yesterday, but Trump has been inching closer to a tie.
Inching closer to a ... what? :lol:
A Tie is a theoretically possible result, 269 Electoral College places each, but not the way this is set up.

Trump has been steadily gaining in Arizona and Nevada but losing ground in Pennsylvania and Georgia. He came from behind in Nth Carolina.

it's also still possible for Trump to win but Biden is in the box seat.


Perhaps I’m misreading it, but I’m pretty sure they’re saying he’s headed for a tie in Arizona, which doesn’t make any sense (it’d be something like a 1 in a million chance). Otherwise, I don’t think an electoral college tie is mathematically possible at this point given the states that have already been declared.
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Jezza wrote:I think there's one thing we can all agree on.

The polling industry is finished. Apart from a small few, most of them have no credibility.
Nonsense. They predicted a Biden victory. Biden is more than 3,000,000 in front and going away further as they count the early and postal votes.
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Tannin wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
Tannin wrote:Worst case, Trump gets 265 (that's giving him Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania) leaving Biden with 270 and a win despite the Republican gerrymander.
Actually, as it sits right now, Biden is on 253 and Trump 214.
Sez who? Arizona is safe for Biden with a 3% advantage. Late-counted votes tend Democrat in this election, so more than 3% is likely.
I’ve read that apparently they’ve been trending the other way in Arizona for some reason. (Something about only late postal votes being uncounted.)
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Tannin wrote:
Jezza wrote:I think there's one thing we can all agree on.

The polling industry is finished. Apart from a small few, most of them have no credibility.
Nonsense. They predicted a Biden victory. Biden is more than 3,000,000 in front and going away further as they count the early and postal votes.
They said Biden would win the national vote by 8-12%, not 2-3% as it looks to be now. It was supposed to be a Biden landslide.

ABC/Washington Post had Biden 17% in front in Wisconsin last week. He's winning the state by 1%.

Most pollsters were wrong about Florida when it was clear from early voting numbers and registration data, Trump would carry the state again.

There's so many other examples of bad polling out there.
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Tannin wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
Tannin wrote:Worst case, Trump gets 265 (that's giving him Georgia, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania) leaving Biden with 270 and a win despite the Republican gerrymander.
Actually, as it sits right now, Biden is on 253 and Trump 214.
Sez who? Arizona is safe for Biden with a 3% advantage. Late-counted votes tend Democrat in this election, so more than 3% is likely.
Well neither CNN or the NY Times have called Arizona safe and the trend with late votes has been to the Republicans in Arizona for some time.

Same as Nevada and Nth Carolina

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... enu_recirc
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Arizona doesn't seem to be the same as Nevada or North Carolina.

In Nevada, what is left to count is said by the scrutineers to be basically Democrat-heavy voting and the general expectation is that Biden will pull away. In short, the electoral authorities basically exhausted the votes that Trump was pulling back with. All that's left to count in Nevada are mail-in ballots and they have been heavily favouring Biden - according to fivethirtyeight, the voter-registrations for the mail in ballots in Nevada heavily favoured the Democrats at all stages (including the later ones). The thing about Nevada is that we won't know the result, possibly for a week, because their postal votes only had to be postmarked by 3 November and arrive by 10 November. Of course, those are the sorts of timing issues that Trump wants to litigate elsewhere but he is behind here, so litigating those points can't help him win Nevada.

In North Carolina, Biden will continue to close the gap but the intelligent scrutineers say he probably isn't going to run Trump's vote there down - because there just aren't enough votes left. That's probably an accurate assessment of North Carolina because, on the figures I saw before I turned over to watch the replay of the Storm winning the Origin for NSW and Qld, Trump's lead then seemed unassailable. Like Pennsylvania, Biden has been steadily pegging the lead back but, unlike Pennsylvania, there just aren't enough truckloads of uncounted Biden votes left.

Arizona is different because the Republicans had a much more effective mail-in voting campaign than they did elsewhere in the country. It's expected to be North Carolina in reverse - the prevailing view is that Trump will close the gap but isn't making up enough ground fast enough to catch the lead.
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The ABC (ours not theirs) is reporting through breaking news that Biden is one state away from winning.
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I hope his first act is to investigate Trump’s tax avoidance and his financial activities. Then I hope he sentences Mitch McConnell for the term of his unnatural life to endless ethics classes where he is forced to live without healthcare.

While I hope Biden wins what a poisoned chalice Trump has left him.

Needs to work slowly to heal rifts and immediately work on the mid term elections to get a majority in the house that currently matters.
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To add to Pies4Shaw's post, Georgia probably does have enough count left to still go Biden.
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watt price tully wrote:The ABC (ours not theirs) is reporting through breaking news that Biden is one state away from winning.
Huh? Biden has been one state away since about lunchtime. This is "breaking news"?
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Woods wrote:The [red]wave is coming in now.

UK betting markets have flipped to Trump.

Pennsylvania will go Trump.
You're not so chirpy today, Woods?
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