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0 new cases and 0 new deaths. Tenth day in a row. It’s time to leave the other reporting, at least for the time being.
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Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech is strongly effective, early data from large trial indicate

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/09/cov ... -indicate/

"Although it is a bright spot in the battle against the pandemic and a triumph for Pfizer and BioNTech, a German company, key information about the vaccine is not yet available. There is no information yet on whether the vaccine prevents severe cases, the type that can cause hospitalization and death.

Nor is there any information yet on whether it prevents people from carrying the virus that causes Covid-19, SARS-CoV-2, without symptoms.

Without more information, it’s too early to start predicting how much of an impact the vaccine could make, said Michael Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Diseases Research and Policy.

“I don’t want to dampen any enthusiasm for this vaccine. I just want us to be realistic,” Osterholm said. “For a vaccine to really have maximal impact, it’s going to have to also reduce severe illness and death. And we just don’t know yet.”"

Because the vaccine has been studied for only a matter of months, it is impossible to say how long it will protect against infection with the virus. The vaccine does cause side effects, including aches and fevers, according to previously published data. Gruber said that he believed the side effect profile was comparable to standard adult vaccines, but probably worse than Pfizer’s pneumonia vaccine, Prevnar, or a flu shot.
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Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine is more than 90 percent effective in first analysis, company reports

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... effective/

"In Pfizer’s 44,000-person trial, there have so far been 94 cases of covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, in people who were not previously infected. Fewer than nine of those cases were among people who received two shots of the vaccine, a strong indication of efficacy. The study defined a case as someone with a positive test result and at least one symptom.
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“The results are really quite good, I mean extraordinary,” said Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, adding that they might bode well for a vaccine being developed by biotech firm Moderna and his institute that uses a similar technology, “which gives you hope we might even have two vaccines.”
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Paul A. Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said the data look “encouraging.” The trial’s faster-than-expected progress to 94 cases, he said, was “the upside of having a virus that’s out of control.”"
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It's a new kind of vaccine, an mRNA type that (I understand) has never been used in humans before, not a typical vaccine that uses a weakened or dead version of the actual virus.

Nice progress, I'm at the back of the queue to trial it.
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BBC:

"The vaccine appears safe from the large trials so far but nothing, including paracetamol, is 100% safe."

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54873105
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"Professor Terry Nolan, a vaccine expert from the University of Melbourne's Doherty Institute, says while scientists had been pretty sure the spike protein was the right target for vaccines, these results clinched it.

"While there was every reason to believe… that it was the right target, we were never going to know for sure until we had this sort of human response data.

"So clearly, the spike protein is the right target, and that means it's more likely than not that there will be several successful vaccines."
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020 ... s/12866750
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In other news...

the former advisor to the outgoing US President has been banned from Twitter for calling for Dr. Fauci to be beheaded.


Who'd want to be a public health official in that country?? :(
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Who'd want to be in that country at all?

What a shite-hole.
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It’s interesting how much the left support censorship, they want a media that only reports what they support and censor all other views

No wonder they all support China
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I'm trying to work out what that comment is referring to.

Masks? Vaccines?? Death tallies???

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Twitter as well as an off topic comment on the Rudd RC
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Twitter cannot possibly allow people to use their platform to call for violence and beheadings.

Many would say Twitter, FB, etc. have not done enough to combat misinformation that in a pandemic costs lives.
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Yeah we can’t allow people to have an opinion
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Tannin wrote:Who'd want to be in that country at all?

What a shite-hole.
take me back to Yellowstone,
to marvel at the view,
antelope canyon,
and the bend with the horseshoe!
almost heaven, west Virginia,
blue ridge mountain, Shenandoah river!
Yosemite, mono lake, Big Sur,
death Valley - with a little ghost town named Darwin,
where the only locals went out of their way to rescue
us stranded honeymooners!!

in a heartbeat mate, in a heartbeat!!
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think positive wrote:
Tannin wrote:Who'd want to be in that country at all?

What a shite-hole.
take me back to Yellowstone,
to marvel at the view,
antelope canyon,
and the bend with the horseshoe!
almost heaven, west Virginia,
blue ridge mountain, Shenandoah river!
Yosemite, mono lake, Big Sur,
death Valley - with a little ghost town named Darwin,
where the only locals went out of their way to rescue
us stranded honeymooners!!

in a heartbeat mate, in a heartbeat!!
Vegas, Santa Monica, Frisco, and yeah El Paso. Beam me there Scotty
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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