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doriswilgus wrote:
I certainly never said that about the BLM protests,so your question is totally irrelevant.And I must say,for someone who has no interest in America,or for Trump in particular,you certainly have a lot to say,and you get especially hot under the collar whenever he’s criticised.But I can understand your reluctance to admit to being a supporter.His name is mud around the world now,so it’s perfectly understandable that you wouldn’t want to admit to being a supporter,at least publicly..I would probably do the same thing,if I were in your position.
I don't get hot under the collar about criticism of Trump, I get sick of people defending Dan's incompetence that is actually affecting us all to attack a former president on the other side of the world which has no impact on us.

Well, except for when people in Australia decide to copy America, have their own protests during a pandemic and started a second wave that crippled this state.

So I see you refuse to answer the question, did you support them or not?
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watt price tully wrote:Jezza, I worry about Jezza but he can be reasoned with and can be reasonable. Why he wants to defend Trump is beyond me ( especially in relation to the Coronavirus)
Thank you for the concern, but there's no need to be worried.

We're just engaging in robust discussion.
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Jezza wrote:
doriswilgus wrote:Telling people it was no big deal,mocking people who wore masks didn’t help the situation either.It gave people,mostly his supporters who believe everything he says,a false sense of security that ended up costing lives.There was a recent report that stated that America’s death toll could have been 40% lower if he had actually taken the coronavirus seriously.But hey,it’s never his fault is it?It’s always someone else’s fault,isn’t it?
Sure, and if China responded three weeks earlier in containing the Wuhan outbreak, 95% of infections would have been prevented.

But we don't hear a peep from the left about this.
this this this this this

because people still want to be able to buy cheap useless world destroying shit.
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Btw still waiting for the example of states forced into lockdown due to cases imported from Sydney.

But you call other people liars and delusional whilst peddling complete bullshit.

Should you be diagnosing mental illnesses or being admitted yourself?
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Pies4shaw wrote:That's because it's irrelevant to people who are interested in dealing with the problem. Nothing that happened in the US (or Australia for that matter) since February 2020 has been China's fault in any relevant sense. It's only useful for apportioning blame and telling people to look somewhere else, which is exactly why the neo-Nazi ex-president of the US wanted to do it. He obviously sucked you in, Jezza.
you should card yourself for that.
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Pies4shaw wrote:^ That is the opposite of my recollection, TP. What I do recall is the Supreme Court striking down some restraints on religious gatherings and the like last October. FWIW, here the (US) ABC's timeline of the early steps that Cuomo and Trump did and didn't take:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-cuom ... d=69914641
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... rus-152812

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-29/ ... n/12100466

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/28/ny-gov- ... ntine.html
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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eddiesmith wrote:
doriswilgus wrote:
I certainly never said that about the BLM protests,so your question is totally irrelevant.And I must say,for someone who has no interest in America,or for Trump in particular,you certainly have a lot to say,and you get especially hot under the collar whenever he’s criticised.But I can understand your reluctance to admit to being a supporter.His name is mud around the world now,so it’s perfectly understandable that you wouldn’t want to admit to being a supporter,at least publicly..I would probably do the same thing,if I were in your position.
I don't get hot under the collar about criticism of Trump, I get sick of people defending Dan's incompetence that is actually affecting us all to attack a former president on the other side of the world which has no impact on us.

Well, except for when people in Australia decide to copy America, have their own protests during a pandemic and started a second wave that crippled this state.

So I see you refuse to answer the question, did you support them or not?
Of course I’m. not a racist.What a stupid question.You’re not doing your cause any good by asking irrelevant questions like that.What the hell has the BLM protests got to do with how Trumpian mishandled the pandemic?Total deflection and red herring on your part.By the way,you didn’t deny that you are a Trump supporter,so I take that as a yes then?
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watt price tully wrote:People need a level head in a “reported crisis” not the nervous nellies saying the sky is falling. The twice elected Premier of Victoria, the right honourable Daniel Andrews is doing just that as his team are. I deal with crises everyday including life and death crises, like the Premier you need a cool head to sort through the information and make decisions that are safe for individuals and others. The temporary lockdown is a good admittedly strong reaction to this.

Managing other people’s behaviour however is another matter: be it the panic supermarket panic buying, the anti vaxxers demonstrating in Flinders Street or the frenzy whipped up by Murdoch and his mates.

Heady times needs a cool hand. A Velvet glove covering a hand of steel.
There wouldn't be a crisis if the Andrews "best in class " contact tracing and hotel quarantine weren't so appallingly inept
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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think positive wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:^ That is the opposite of my recollection, TP. What I do recall is the Supreme Court striking down some restraints on religious gatherings and the like last October. FWIW, here the (US) ABC's timeline of the early steps that Cuomo and Trump did and didn't take:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-cuom ... d=69914641
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/2 ... rus-152812

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-29/ ... n/12100466

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/28/ny-gov- ... ntine.html
So a Democratic governor did exactly the same things they are bagging Trump for like downplaying the virus threat saying it wasn't a big issue?

"Many people will get the virus, but few will be truly endangered," he said.
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doriswilgus wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:
doriswilgus wrote:
I certainly never said that about the BLM protests,so your question is totally irrelevant.And I must say,for someone who has no interest in America,or for Trump in particular,you certainly have a lot to say,and you get especially hot under the collar whenever he’s criticised.But I can understand your reluctance to admit to being a supporter.His name is mud around the world now,so it’s perfectly understandable that you wouldn’t want to admit to being a supporter,at least publicly..I would probably do the same thing,if I were in your position.
I don't get hot under the collar about criticism of Trump, I get sick of people defending Dan's incompetence that is actually affecting us all to attack a former president on the other side of the world which has no impact on us.

Well, except for when people in Australia decide to copy America, have their own protests during a pandemic and started a second wave that crippled this state.

So I see you refuse to answer the question, did you support them or not?
Of course I’m. not a racist.What a stupid question.You’re not doing your cause any good by asking irrelevant questions like that.What the hell has the BLM protests got to do with how Trumpian mishandled the pandemic?Total deflection and red herring on your part.By the way,you didn’t deny that you are a Trump supporter,so I take that as a yes then?
I've already said I wasn't 10,000 times but whatever.

It's very simple, you condemned Trump for holding political rallies so I simply wanted to know if you condemned mass protests? It seems you support protests because they were left wing nutjobs but condemn rallies by a Republican.

Now we've cleared that up we know you're as one sided and biased as your mental health mate.
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What is wrong with calling a neo-Nazi a neo-Nazi? Or saying that he desperately wanted to find someone else to blame for his own neglect?
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eddiesmith wrote:
doriswilgus wrote:
eddiesmith wrote: I don't get hot under the collar about criticism of Trump, I get sick of people defending Dan's incompetence that is actually affecting us all to attack a former president on the other side of the world which has no impact on us.

Well, except for when people in Australia decide to copy America, have their own protests during a pandemic and started a second wave that crippled this state.

So I see you refuse to answer the question, did you support them or not?
Of course I’m. not a racist.What a stupid question.You’re not doing your cause any good by asking irrelevant questions like that.What the hell has the BLM protests got to do with how Trumpian mishandled the pandemic?Total deflection and red herring on your part.By the way,you didn’t deny that you are a Trump supporter,so I take that as a yes then?
I've already said I wasn't 10,000 times but whatever.

It's very simple, you condemned Trump for holding political rallies so I simply wanted to know if you condemned mass protests? It seems you support protests because they were left wing nutjobs but condemn rallies by a Republican.

Now we've cleared that up we know you're as one sided and biased as your mental health mate.
This is my final word on the matter,because it’s going nowhere.I supported the BLM cause because it’ is a worthy cause,fighting against racism.But I didn’t support them protesting during the middle of a pandemic because it risked spreading the disease.These were spontaneous protests from ordinary people remember,not political figures who were in positions of power.

The Trump rallies were organised by him for his own benefit.He was the President of the United States at the time and he was wilfully allowing people to spread the disease just to give himself an ego boost.As the President,he should have known better..He should have acted more responsibly.He should have thought of the danger he was putting his own supporters through and the community at large by holding these rallies.But he didn’t care about their safety,he only cared about his own self aggrandisement.And that’s why I rightly condemn him for his actions.

And ps,thanks for the cheap shot about my mental health at the end of your post.That was indicative of your character,or lack there of.Unfortunately,it’s typical of how you post here.
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^

Wasn't directed at you

'your mental health mate' refers to the no1 Dan defender and deflector
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doriswilgus wrote:
The Trump rallies were organised by him for his own benefit.He was the President of the United States at the time and he was wilfully allowing people to spread the disease just to give himself an ego boost.As the President,he should have known better..He should have acted more responsibly.He should have thought of the danger he was putting his own supporters through and the community at large by holding these rallies.But he didn’t care about their safety,he only cared about his own self aggrandisement.And that’s why I rightly condemn him for his actions.
um....you do realise he was campaigning during an election year right? So were Joe's campaign rallies the same selfish organised events for his own benefit? Is Joe just as negligent bringing people together?
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eddiesmith wrote:^

Wasn't directed at you

'your mental health mate' refers to the no1 Dan defender and deflector
Okay.Let’s leave it at that then.
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