Coronavirus 3 - Al Pacino's turn to mumble

[doriswilgus]

The Trump rallies were organised by him for his own benefit.He was the President of the United States at the time and he was wilfully allowing people to spread the disease just to give himself an ego boost.As the President,he should have known better..He should have acted more responsibly.He should have thought of the danger he was putting his own supporters through and the community at large by holding these rallies.But he didn’t care about their safety,he only cared about his own self aggrandisement.And that’s why I rightly condemn him for his actions.

um....you do realise he was campaigning during an election year right? So were Joe's campaign rallies the same selfish organised events for his own benefit? Is Joe just as negligent bringing people together?

As I said before,Biden held drive in rallies where people were sitting in their cars,so very little chance of transmitting the disease.Trump on the other hand had thousands of people squashed into stands,mostly without masks.Very different situation

[What'sinaname]

The Trump rallies were organised by him for his own benefit.He was the President of the United States at the time and he was wilfully allowing people to spread the disease just to give himself an ego boost.As the President,he should have known better..He should have acted more responsibly.He should have thought of the danger he was putting his own supporters through and the community at large by holding these rallies.But he didn’t care about their safety,he only cared about his own self aggrandisement.And that’s why I rightly condemn him for his actions.

um....you do realise he was campaigning during an election year right? So were Joe's campaign rallies the same selfish organised events for his own benefit? Is Joe just as negligent bringing people together?

As I said before,Biden held drive in rallies where people were sitting in their cars,so very little chance of transmitting the disease.Trump on the other hand had thousands of people squashed into stands,mostly without masks.Very different situation

Yep, that's what the media wanted you to believe....lots of social distancing at the Biden rally and very few masks at the Trump one.

[stui magpie]

Gotta love distraction, let's avoid discussing Chairman Dan's horrible **** ups by doing a pile on on Trump in the Coronavirus thread.

Well played

[doriswilgus]

um....you do realise he was campaigning during an election year right? So were Joe's campaign rallies the same selfish organised events for his own benefit? Is Joe just as negligent bringing people together?

As I said before,Biden held drive in rallies where people were sitting in their cars,so very little chance of transmitting the disease.Trump on the other hand had thousands of people squashed into stands,mostly without masks.Very different situation

Yep, that's what the media wanted you to believe....lots of social distancing at the Biden rally and very few masks at the Trump one.

You do realise that at Trump rallies they deliberately put people wearing masks behind the stage so that it appeared that they were acting responsibly?.In reality the vast majority of the crowds at those rallies didn’t wear masks.As for the Biden rallies,there’s still a lot more space between the people at those rallies than there were at the Trump rallies,and most people did stay in their cars.

[watt price tully]

Of course I’m. not a racist.What a stupid question.You’re not doing your cause any good by asking irrelevant questions like that.What the hell has the BLM protests got to do with how Trumpian mishandled the pandemic?Total deflection and red herring on your part.By the way,you didn’t deny that you are a Trump supporter,so I take that as a yes then?

I've already said I wasn't 10,000 times but whatever.

It's very simple, you condemned Trump for holding political rallies so I simply wanted to know if you condemned mass protests? It seems you support protests because they were left wing nutjobs but condemn rallies by a Republican.

Now we've cleared that up we know you're as one sided and biased as your mental health mate.

This is my final word on the matter,because it’s going nowhere.I supported the BLM cause because it’ is a worthy cause,fighting against racism.But I didn’t support them protesting during the middle of a pandemic because it risked spreading the disease.These were spontaneous protests from ordinary people remember,not political figures who were in positions of power.

The Trump rallies were organised by him for his own benefit.He was the President of the United States at the time and he was wilfully allowing people to spread the disease just to give himself an ego boost.As the President,he should have known better..He should have acted more responsibly.He should have thought of the danger he was putting his own supporters through and the community at large by holding these rallies.But he didn’t care about their safety,he only cared about his own self aggrandisement.And that’s why I rightly condemn him for his actions.

And ps,thanks for the cheap shot about my mental health at the end of your post.That was indicative of your character,or lack there of.Unfortunately,it’s typical of how you post here.

Don’t bother doriswilgus. You’re right to end the interactions.

[David]

I find all of this partisan bickering about whose guy handled the pandemic worse a bit tiresome. Andrews has done some good things and also made some incompetent mistakes, as have many leaders around the world (quite how those balance out is beyond my capacity to cut through the LNP/ALP propaganda that gets flung around). Xi and his leadership are possibly responsible for the entire pandemic, which is no small achievement. Trump, as doriswilgus said, was not only jaw-droppingly incompetent from an early stage, but kept doing incredibly dumb things along the way (and yes, probably a few good things that didn't get as much coverage like fast-tracking vaccine research) and was just about the worst possible leader that the US could have had in this moment (Biden, in contrast, held no position until three weeks ago and so can't possibly have his performance marked either way).

All of that is, or should be, uncontroversial. What flabbergasts me is how few people seem to appreciate the failings of Andrew Cuomo, who, in charge of the world's tenth-largest jurisdiction (in economic terms), was criminally negligent, breathtakingly arrogant, an expert at blame-shifting and now, we see, attempted to cover up his own mistakes in sending vulnerable people to virus-infested nursing homes. He's one of the real villains of the US response to the pandemic, to my mind, and deserves to be discussed in the same terms as Trump is.

[watt price tully]

Gotta love distraction, ....doing a pile on on Trump in the Coronavirus thread.

Well played

David introduced the New York Governor and it went from there. To suggest it was distraction is an incorrect reading of how Trump got introduced. Some silly defenders of Trump weren’t allowed to get away with nonsense in defending him, that’s all.

I know it’s hard for country people to keep up especially when they’re from NSW

[What'sinaname]

It's all David's fault......everything.

[David]

I have to say my eyes nearly popped out of my head when I came back a few hours later to find five new pages of this thread.

[stui magpie]

Stui said in part

:

Gotta love distraction, ....doing a pile on on Trump in the Coronavirus thread.

Well played

WPT replied:

David introduced the New York Governor and it went from there. To suggest it was distraction is an incorrect reading of how Trump got introduced. Some silly defenders of Trump weren’t allowed to get away with nonsense in defending him, that’s all.

I know it’s hard for country people to keep up especially when they’re from NSW

[David]

That was partially my fault in trying to fix it, but it would help if people quoted properly (and sparingly) to begin with.

[Jezza]

All of that is, or should be, uncontroversial. What flabbergasts me is how few people seem to appreciate the failings of Andrew Cuomo, who, in charge of the world's tenth-largest jurisdiction (in economic terms), was criminally negligent, breathtakingly arrogant, an expert at blame-shifting and now, we see, attempted to cover up his own mistakes in sending vulnerable people to virus-infested nursing homes. He's one of the real villains of the US response to the pandemic, to my mind, and deserves to be discussed in the same terms as Trump is.

Your assessment of Cuomo is spot on. He's hands down the worst governor in the US. At least people are finally waking up to the extent of his negligence in sending COVID patients into nursing homes.

Imagine anyone buying his book about leadership of dealing with the pandemic

https://www.amazon.com.au/American-Cris ... B08F4J56ZT

[eddiesmith]

All of that is, or should be, uncontroversial. What flabbergasts me is how few people seem to appreciate the failings of Andrew Cuomo, who, in charge of the world's tenth-largest jurisdiction (in economic terms), was criminally negligent, breathtakingly arrogant, an expert at blame-shifting and now, we see, attempted to cover up his own mistakes in sending vulnerable people to virus-infested nursing homes. He's one of the real villains of the US response to the pandemic, to my mind, and deserves to be discussed in the same terms as Trump is.

What was even funnier was someone posted an article seemingly to blame Trump and not Cuomo which actually quotes him as saying Covid isn't a big problem and most people won't be adversely affected by catching it!

But what Dan does adversely affects most of us, whilst apparently being good for a few hence their rigorous defence of his constant failures. What Trump did or didn't do had no effect on Australians or Victorians.

[Jezza]

Pretty damning assessment from the Australian Medical Association (AMA).

'Victoria cannot be trusted to run quarantine' - medical association

Experts in Australia are "gobsmacked" to learn the hotel quarantine programme was left out of Victoria's key taskforce on infection control for frontline health workers and the policies were not applied to the embattled system.

The Australian Medical Association (AMA) has also declared Victoria "cannot be trusted" to manage hotel quarantine until it is fully restructured after Victoria was this week forced into a third lockdown due to a cluster at the Holiday Inn hotel quarantine site at Melbourne Airport.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/436374 ... ssociation

[What'sinaname]

^ but....but....Dan......gold standard.......Twice elected.......

AMA must be Liberal plants.