Post Match. Pies pipped in thriller. All comments, please.

[eddiesmith]

It’s just typical Collingwood under Buckley. We build hope. Show positive signs but then let ourselves down.
Our decision making going forward is terrible. We need to lower our eyes and try to hit a target. Stop bombing the ball and hope someone marks it.
For all our faults over the years we still don’t have a genuine forward. All tops sides have 1-3. We don’t that deplorable

Also why don’t we play more kids.
Too many passengers

Just see 2021 as a transition year

From the salary cap fiasco/disaster we saw play out late last year, it is clear why we dont have a key forward. We simply were unable to afford one.
We are where we are, and cannot change this overnight. Salary cap space has now been achieved by hiving off major talent (Stepho, Adz), and it will take time to make use of this.

This is a myth, we had to make room to cover the upgrades we made last year to 2 key players and Grundy. There is no pot of gold waiting for a free agent this year, our cap is full.

[Jezza]

Terrible way to lose. The playing group showed no composure in the last few minutes.

Feels self-inflicted though, and we've seen this crap before. Felt very reminiscent of the 2018 Grand Final. Burst out of the blocks with a decent lead until the opposition grinds us down and gradually comes back before edging us at the end.

Grundy was good, but our midfield demonstrates why it's overrated yet again. It's inexcusable we can't make the most of having one of the best rucks in the competition.

Defence is the reason why we'll always be in the contest even if our midfield isn't producing the goods. It happened in round 1 and was repeated tonight.

The match committee needs to be ruthless ahead of next week's game against GWS. Poor games from C. Brown, WHE and Thomas tonight.

The nature of the loss stings. Will take a bit of time to fully process.

[Jezza]

I’d be very interested to know what our record is in games decided by 12 points or less since 2012.

25 wins, 2 draws, 26 losses since 2012.

Round 8 2012 vs Geelong (+12)
Round 1 2015 vs Brisbane (+12)
Round 15 2016 vs Carlton (+12)
Round 23 2019 vs Essendon (+11)
Semi Final 2018 vs GWS (+10)
Qualifying Final 2019 vs Geelong (+10)
Round 23 2018 vs Fremantle (+9)
Round 14 2019 vs Western Bulldogs (+9)
Round 10 2020 vs Sydney (+9)
Round 20 2012 vs Sydney (+8]
Round 10 2014 vs West Coast (+8]
Round 22 2014 vs GWS (+8]
Round 18 2017 vs West Coast (+8]
Round 7 2018 vs Brisbane (+7)
Round 10 2019 vs Sydney (+7)
Round 19 2012 vs St Kilda (+6)
Round 8 2013 vs Geelong (+6)
Round 19 2014 vs Port Adelaide (+6)
Round 6 2019 vs Essendon (+4)
Round 13 2012 vs West Coast (+3)
Round 5 2012 vs Essendon (+1)
Round 2 2016 vs Richmond (+1)
Round 3 2017 vs Sydney (+1)
Round 17 2019 vs West Coast (+1)
Elimination Final 2020 vs West Coast (+1)

Round 19 2017 vs Adelaide (0)
Round 2 2020 vs Richmond (0)

Round 23 2016 vs Hawthorn (-1)
Round 3 2021 vs Brisbane (-1)
Round 20 2018 vs Sydney (-2)
Round 4 2020 vs GWS (-2)
Round 15 2015 vs Port Adelaide (-3)
Round 23 2015 vs Essendon (-3)
Round 21 2016 vs Western Bulldogs (-3)
Round 8 2017 vs GWS (-3)
Round 12 2017 vs Melbourne (-4)
Round 11 2019 vs Fremantle (-4)
Round 16 2019 vs Hawthorn (-4)
Preliminary Final 2019 vs GWS (-4)
Round 16 2014 vs Gold Coast (-5)
Round 7 2015 vs Richmond (-5)
Grand Final 2018 vs West Coast (-5)
Round 17 2013 vs Gold Coast (-7)
Round 13 2015 vs Fremantle (-7)
Round 1 2019 vs Geelong (-7)
Round 13 2014 vs Western Bulldogs (-8]
Round 15 2020 vs Brisbane (-8]
Round 14 2015 vs Hawthorn (-10)
Round 23 2013 vs North Melbourne (-11)
Round 3 2014 vs Geelong (-11)
Round 20 2015 vs Sydney (-11)
Round 22 2017 vs Geelong (-11)
Round 9 2020 vs Fremantle (-12)

[Magpietothemax]

I’d be very interested to know what our record is in games decided by 12 points or less since 2012.

25 wins, 2 draws, 26 losses since 2012.

Round 8 2012 vs Geelong (+12)
Round 1 2015 vs Brisbane (+12)
Round 15 2016 vs Carlton (+12)
Round 23 2019 vs Essendon (+11)
Semi Final 2018 vs GWS (+10)
Qualifying Final 2019 vs Geelong (+10)
Round 23 2018 vs Fremantle (+9)
Round 14 2019 vs Western Bulldogs (+9)
Round 10 2020 vs Sydney (+9)
Round 20 2012 vs Sydney (+8]
Round 10 2014 vs West Coast (+8]
Round 22 2014 vs GWS (+8]
Round 18 2017 vs West Coast (+8]
Round 7 2018 vs Brisbane (+7)
Round 10 2019 vs Sydney (+7)
Round 19 2012 vs St Kilda (+6)
Round 8 2013 vs Geelong (+6)
Round 19 2014 vs Port Adelaide (+6)
Round 6 2019 vs Essendon (+4)
Round 13 2012 vs West Coast (+3)
Round 5 2012 vs Essendon (+1)
Round 2 2016 vs Richmond (+1)
Round 3 2017 vs Sydney (+1)
Round 17 2019 vs West Coast (+1)
Elimination Final 2020 vs West Coast (+1)

Round 19 2017 vs Adelaide (0)
Round 2 2020 vs Richmond (0)

Round 23 2016 vs Hawthorn (-1)
Round 3 2021 vs Brisbane (-1)
Round 20 2018 vs Sydney (-2)
Round 4 2020 vs GWS (-2)
Round 15 2015 vs Port Adelaide (-3)
Round 23 2015 vs Essendon (-3)
Round 21 2016 vs Western Bulldogs (-3)
Round 8 2017 vs GWS (-3)
Round 12 2017 vs Melbourne (-4)
Round 11 2019 vs Fremantle (-4)
Round 16 2019 vs Hawthorn (-4)
Preliminary Final 2019 vs GWS (-4)
Round 16 2014 vs Gold Coast (-5)
Round 7 2015 vs Richmond (-5)
Grand Final 2018 vs West Coast (-5)
Round 17 2013 vs Gold Coast (-7)
Round 13 2015 vs Fremantle (-7)
Round 1 2019 vs Geelong (-7)
Round 13 2014 vs Western Bulldogs (-8]
Round 15 2020 vs Brisbane (-8]
Round 14 2015 vs Hawthorn (-10)
Round 23 2013 vs North Melbourne (-11)
Round 3 2014 vs Geelong (-11)
Round 20 2015 vs Sydney (-11)
Round 22 2017 vs Geelong (-11)
Round 9 2020 vs Fremantle (-12)

Hey Jezza, kudos to you. How do you come up with such data so quickly?

[Jezza]

Hey Jezza, kudos to you. How do you come up with such data so quickly?

Hey, MTTM

I rely on AFL Tables. Just went through all the games since 2012 and typed them out as I went.

https://afltables.com/afl/teams/colling ... games.html

[Piesnchess]

I dont think you can put it all on Bucks tonight, last week, De Goey and WHE plus Mihocheck, had good games, this week poor games from all 3, who saw that coming, especially De Goey. ?? You cant blame the Coach for every damn thing, these are highly paid professional footballers, who should KNOW how to run a game out, they should by now, know how to make shit happen, and grind out a win. Some of our guys just played dumb in that game, they should know better. Granted its time to bite the bullet, and drop a few, WHE, Thomas, Magden, bring in 3 kids, freshen the team up a bit, like Swans have, nothing like youthful enthusiasm. We should, one hopes, be in a foul mood against the GWS, just re load and come out firing, its all we can do now, this game is past, now look ahead.

[Cam]

With Malthouse when we played crap he was trying new things and he blooded new talent.

Come on mate. This is revisionism at its finest. You have forgotten the common phrase "Malthouse has no plan B." This was used for 10 years.

As for blooding new talent, Ben Kinnear was on the list for 7 years before winning the best and fairest for Lalor the year after he pulled the pin.

And um, Tarkyn Lockyer, Cheesy O'Bree and his helicopter kicks say "Hi!" We were all calling for Malthouse's head in 2009.

In fact if the succession plan hadn't been announced, 2010 may never have happened because after it was we actually recruited Luke Ball and Darren Jolly after years of bullshit recruits like Chad Rintoul and Chad Morrison. Slag Bucks all you like but ffs don't rewrite Malthouse into being something that he wasn't.

[Peponi]

With Malthouse when we played crap he was trying new things and he blooded new talent.

Come on mate. This is revisionism at its finest. You have forgotten the common phrase "Malthouse has no plan B." This was used for 10 years.

As for blooding new talent, Ben Kinnear was on the list for 7 years before winning the best and fairest for Lalor the year after he pulled the pin.

And um, Tarkyn Lockyer, Cheesy O'Bree and his helicopter kicks say "Hi!" We were all calling for Malthouse's head in 2009.

In fact if the succession plan hadn't been announced, 2010 may never have happened because after it was we actually recruited Luke Ball and Darren Jolly after years of bullshit recruits like Chad Rintoul and Chad Morrison. Slag Bucks all you like but ffs don't rewrite Malthouse into being something that he wasn't.

Dear me. Comparing FIGJAM to Malthouse... oh, please.

[Jezza]

First time we've lost one after the siren in my life.

Same.

Before tonight, the last time it happened to us was against Footscray (at the Western Oval) in 1984. What was Gubby Allan thinking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k5rTNZWqZA

[Cam]

With Malthouse when we played crap he was trying new things and he blooded new talent.

Come on mate. This is revisionism at its finest. You have forgotten the common phrase "Malthouse has no plan B." This was used for 10 years.

As for blooding new talent, Ben Kinnear was on the list for 7 years before winning the best and fairest for Lalor the year after he pulled the pin.

And um, Tarkyn Lockyer, Cheesy O'Bree and his helicopter kicks say "Hi!" We were all calling for Malthouse's head in 2009.

In fact if the succession plan hadn't been announced, 2010 may never have happened because after it was we actually recruited Luke Ball and Darren Jolly after years of bullshit recruits like Chad Rintoul and Chad Morrison. Slag Bucks all you like but ffs don't rewrite Malthouse into being something that he wasn't.

Dear me. Comparing FIGJAM to Malthouse... oh, please.

It was you who compared them... I modified your comparison to at least include some reality.

[Piesnchess]

Come on mate. This is revisionism at its finest. You have forgotten the common phrase "Malthouse has no plan B." This was used for 10 years.

As for blooding new talent, Ben Kinnear was on the list for 7 years before winning the best and fairest for Lalor the year after he pulled the pin.

And um, Tarkyn Lockyer, Cheesy O'Bree and his helicopter kicks say "Hi!" We were all calling for Malthouse's head in 2009.

In fact if the succession plan hadn't been announced, 2010 may never have happened because after it was we actually recruited Luke Ball and Darren Jolly after years of bullshit recruits like Chad Rintoul and Chad Morrison. Slag Bucks all you like but ffs don't rewrite Malthouse into being something that he wasn't.

Dear me. Comparing FIGJAM to Malthouse... oh, please.

It was you who compared them... I modified your comparison to at least include some reality.

Yeh, and MM was such a "roaring " success at Carrrrrrlton hey, he sent them back yrs, cleared Betts and Kennedy did he not ??

[watt price tully]

Terrible way to lose. The playing group showed no composure in the last few minutes.

Feels self-inflicted though, and we've seen this crap before. Felt very reminiscent of the 2018 Grand Final. Burst out of the blocks with a decent lead until the opposition grinds us down and gradually comes back before edging us at the end.

Grundy was good, but our midfield demonstrates why it's overrated yet again. It's inexcusable we can't make the most of having one of the best rucks in the competition.

Defence is the reason why we'll always be in the contest even if our midfield isn't producing the goods. It happened in round 1 and was repeated tonight.

The match committee needs to be ruthless ahead of next week's game against GWS. Poor games from C. Brown, WHE and Thomas tonight.

The nature of the loss stings. Will take a bit of time to fully process.

Mostly agreed but I thought Thomas did OK as did Callum Brown in bits: that miss masked some otherwise decent play but I don’t think he’s in our best 22. WHE had a brilliant 2018 but is nowhere near that now. We need some pace where we just don’t break lines but apply pressure. Players who can kick the friggin ball accurately wouldn’t hurt either.

Mihocek despite his 2 goals was missing for a fair bit of the game and I thought Noble again did very well.

What a disappointing end to the match. I liked ur comment about self inflicted. Indeed our turnovers and unforced errors are cases of self crucifixion....well it is Good Friday.

Damn it

[Geek]

I’d be very interested to know what our record is in games decided by 12 points or less since 2012.

2012: 5W 0L
2013: 1W 2L
2014: 3W 3L
2015: 1W 6L
2016: 2W 2L
2017: 2W 3L 1D
2018: 3W 2L (Though GFs should count for double)
2019: 6W 4L
2020: 2W 3L 1D
2021: 0W 1L

Total: 25W 28L 2D

[Jezza]

Mihocek despite his 2 goals was missing for a fair bit of the game and I thought Noble again did very well.

Noble was good. Liked his start of the year so far.

Love Checkers, but there were four occasions tonight where he directly missed a target in the forward 50. Proved costly in the end.

[Magpietothemax]

Terrible way to lose. The playing group showed no composure in the last few minutes.

Feels self-inflicted though, and we've seen this crap before. Felt very reminiscent of the 2018 Grand Final. Burst out of the blocks with a decent lead until the opposition grinds us down and gradually comes back before edging us at the end.

Grundy was good, but our midfield demonstrates why it's overrated yet again. It's inexcusable we can't make the most of having one of the best rucks in the competition.

Defence is the reason why we'll always be in the contest even if our midfield isn't producing the goods. It happened in round 1 and was repeated tonight.

The match committee needs to be ruthless ahead of next week's game against GWS. Poor games from C. Brown, WHE and Thomas tonight.

The nature of the loss stings. Will take a bit of time to fully process.

Mostly agreed but I thought Thomas did OK as did Callum Brown in bits: that miss masked some otherwise decent play but I don’t think he’s in our best 22. WHE had a brilliant 2018 but is nowhere near that now. We need some pace where we just don’t break lines but apply pressure. Players who can kick the friggin ball accurately wouldn’t hurt either.

Mihocek despite his 2 goals was missing for a fair bit of the game and I thought Noble again did very well.

What a disappointing end to the match. I liked ur comment about self inflicted. Indeed our turnovers and unforced errors are cases of self crucifixion....well it is Good Friday.

Damn it

Lol...but Sunday is the day of the Resurrection... maybe we can build on that for next game against GWS