Israeli–Palestinian conflict

[David]

[watt price tully]

[David]

Serious question: if Hamas is to be disarmed, how do you think Palestinians in Gaza should defend themselves against Israeli violence? Should they have a regular army, or what?

[5 from the wing on debut]

David I expect that you will shortly be lambasted by Pietillidie for reposting something from Facebook.

I agree with WPT’s comments in relation to that post. They’re just words, in the real world those words are meaningless. Israel will do what it wants to do. Words on Facebook do not concern it.

[David]

^ How about the unyielding and basically unconditional financial support of Western countries like our own, and the impunity that comes with it? It’s not like the global community has no say in these things. The settlements would stop tomorrow if the US and its allies withdrew their support and started placing sanctions on the country.

[watt price tully]

Serious question: if Hamas is to be disarmed, how do you think Palestinians in Gaza should defend themselves against Israeli violence? Should they have a regular army, or what?

I want all the settlers removed and disarmed: end of story. Iran is guiding Hamas and funding Hamas. This is an existential question for Israel is not an existential question for Arabs including Palestinians. Not all Arabs in Israel are Palestinians. Some even vote for Netanyahu.

[stui magpie]

IDF view on why they blew up the media building.

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393797067273867266

[5 from the wing on debut]

^ How about the unyielding and basically unconditional financial support of Western countries like our own, and the impunity that comes with it? It’s not like the global community has no say in these things. The settlements would stop tomorrow if the US and its allies withdrew their support and started placing sanctions on the country.

Western countries could do that. But they don’t. Because they don’t want to.

As for a building which houses some media outlets being destroyed because Hamas also has space there, it appears that Al Jazeera never broadxast Cool Hand Luke in Gaza.

https://youtu.be/452XjnaHr1A

[stui magpie]

Great quote, I like it better in this context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMwMJZZtkt8

[5 from the wing on debut]

I was going to link to the Gunners song at first but thought it would be a bit obtuse without a long explanation!

[David]

[pietillidie]

David I expect that you will shortly be lambasted by Pietillidie for reposting something from Facebook.

The crime here starts with even having a friend that uses Facebook!

[pietillidie]

Serious question: if Hamas is to be disarmed, how do you think Palestinians in Gaza should defend themselves against Israeli violence? Should they have a regular army, or what?

It's locked in by all parties involved to be as it is. I think this is what your Facebook friend would call 'overdetermined'.

That question you ask is really the only one that needs to be posed. Basically, you solve the whole and satisfy the POV of each, or you accept status quo. The rest is din made up of people special pleading the superiority or inferiority of one or another group.

[David]

In further, eyebrow-raising news, that post I shared at the top of the page got taken down by Facebook for "supporting terrorism".

Those who wanted the social media companies to step in more to crack down on "extremism" and "misinformation" in the wake of Trump’s election win certainly have a lot to answer for...

[5 from the wing on debut]

I wouldn't want to be sharing office space with the Nicks corporate headquarters when the Israelis find out what is occurring on this forum!