The 'me too' movement

[Bucks5]

I think there is a strong chance that the actresses could have been fired for reacting and interrupting the flow of the show.

[think positive]

did anyone else watch the special/ it was riveting and agony to watch, and seeing the the reports coaching the witnesses... actual footage,

i hope he sues for plenty, because it almost cost him his life,

[David]

[think positive]

did you watch it??

they actually have footage of the journos telling the witnesses what to say.

one of the women worked on other projects, (the most damning one) with him after the fact, and texted him for years as a friend, after the fact.

the kiss one seems ludicrous.

im guessing there is a fair bit of sexual harassment in the film industry, im also guessing a few wannabees would go the casting couch way of their own choice.

he says there was a culture on that particular show behind the scenes that was not nice and he partook in it.

before you comment, you really need to watch it. i reckon hes a scapegoat, and the accusations dont warrant what it has done to his life, especially since he was found not guilty 13 times. the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, lying? exaggerating?

[David]

Can’t find the whole thing, but this is a clip from it, right?

https://youtu.be/K7hUxrHNi9g

Whatever the ethics of this kind of advocacy journalism, it seems pretty rich for those complaints to be levied by a program as obviously one-sided and (almost comically) manipulative as this. I don’t watch commercial current affairs shows and haven’t for a very long time, so it’s always a bit of a shock to be reminded of just how brazen they are.

[watt price tully]

The whole saga with respect to McLachlan seems to trivialise actual sexual abuse.

Unwanted touching even a kiss is in a different hemisphere than sexual abuse. Yes it can be perceived as an abuse of power etc but whatever happened to “**** off” “oy, piss off that’s not on” etc.....and context.

I asked my oldest and she has done that before and embarrassed a perpetrator of unwanted invasion of personal space in the workplace when she was a teenager with an older bloke.

Mrs WPT can’t believe the precious petals that conflate the disparate parts of the continuum.

[5 from the wing on debut]

I think you meant to say "that's not on" rather than "that's not in" which is a very different complaint.

[watt price tully]

[David]

[think positive]

And yet the girl with the ‘worst’ complaint worked with him 2 more times, socialised with him, and was testing him continually up to 6 weeks before he was charged. Chased him for roles. 2 of the woman applied for jobs on the second rocky horror show, me too hit soon after, and then so did they. Not all men are guilty. The casting couch most certainly exists, but not all women are the innocent party in that.

You stick up for a guy in the industry who $@&^# his step daughter! It doesn’t matter if they stayed together, she was taboo from the word go.

13 not guiltys but you still think it’s all on him?

You say you won’t watch it because it’s on commercial tv? And yet you convict him without hearing his side your honour! Ok then!

[stui magpie]

The kind of behaviour that was alleged may be in a different league to rape and serious sexual assault, but it still doesn't belong in a workplace and people who report it or complain about it aren't being precious. Some people are more conflict averse than others and are less able to call it out in the moment with an "Oi, p155 off dickhead, no touching" or similar.

You never want to put blocks in the road of someone reporting the kind of behaviour that was alleged, but it's also utterly wrong that someone's career, livelihood and reputation can be ruined by an allegation

[think positive]

I agree totally

[David]

[stui magpie]

I see the sticky in GD referring to Joffa, I assume that doesn't apply in the VPT, if we can discuss wine stain and pell I don't see why Joffa would be off limits.

For those not with the news, Joffa has been charged with 2 counts of sexual penetration of a 14 year old (at the time) boy in 2005.

Personally I'm very surprised, I've had a number of conversations with Joff in the past and in my judgement of the man I would never have seen anything like this coming. Other than that I won't comment on guilt or innocence.

Unfortunately though, the same phenomena of assuming guilt on being charged is occurring here to. I had a look on Joffa's Facebook page earlier, his last post was a couple of weeks ago, he was in Melbourne, it was the day he was charged. Already there are people piling into the comments on that last post with insults and assumptions of guilt

[WhyPhilWhy?]

I see the sticky in GD referring to Joffa, I assume that doesn't apply in the VPT, if we can discuss wine stain and pell I don't see why Joffa would be off limits

The mods would rather you didn't. Pell and Wienstein are a different proposition to Joffa, who won't have the same resources to defend himself, but will be much more sensitive to the goings on on Nick's.