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Yeah, agreed, but opposition rarely win elections, incumbents lose them.

If enough people get pissed off they'd elect a bunch of glove puppets and historically probably have.
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So, where are all the sooky-la-la's who claimed it was a violation of human rights to stop flights from India.

We caved and now the virus is here and it's running rampant.
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They're in lockdown, victims of Merlino the Magicians talents for hyperbole and deflection.
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What'sinaname wrote:So, where are all the sooky-la-la's who claimed it was a violation of human rights to stop flights from India.

We caved and now the virus is here and it's running rampant.
Just so. Well, Morrison caved, as he always does. He is the ultimate gutless, ball-less wonder.

But there have been multiple levels of failure here. WTF were the Feds doing about their responsibility to take care of immigration and quarantine? In particular, note their absolute inaction on the pressing need for secure quarantine facilities, which was clear and obvious an entire year ago. They have had credible, shovel-ready projects in front of them - especially that excellent one from a very can-do organisation in Toowoomba - and completely ignored the need.

Note further their complete failure to pay attention to clear and obvious evidence that the virus was spreading via aerosol in hotel quarantine situations? This was proven beyond all doubt in Melbourne months ago, and to their credit the Victorian government bit the bullet and spent what they had to spend to get the ventilation issue sorted. Meanwhile, the other states simply ignored the evidence and hoped for the best. This has come back to bite Western Australia on the arse, and now, very sadly, Victoria is paying the price for the South Australian Government's failure to act.
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Victoria is paying a price, again, but blame is questionable.

While the contact tracing has clearly improved from 2020, the fact remains that a single case loose in the wild has caused this cluster and lockdown

No mater what the quarantine or interstate facilities are, we have a right to expect better than this. The failure to set up a single state QR code check in system until last week when NSW had one 7 months ago is a case in point.

The whole point is that the system should be designed for the inevitability that a case will appear in the wild for whatever reason and we need the capacity to deal with it quickly. Despite the rhetoric and blame throwing, we've failed again
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Check-in system would have made no difference. No-one was using it in NSW either. The papers a week or two back were full of the NSW health officials sooking about the low check-in compliance rate. Nobody in this state bothers about it either - though to be fair there hasn't been any Covid here for more than a year so it's hard to expect people to fuss too much.

And the appearance of a case was not "inevitable". The case appeared because Morrison's failed to take responsibility for, or do anything about an obviously flawed hotel quarantine system. It was only "inevitable" to the extent that the Morrison government was irresponsible and incompetent.

Oh.

Sorry.

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And another thing. The Federal Minister for Aged Care has NFI how many age care workers have been vaccinated and how many not. That is mind-bogglingly incompetent. Anyone would think that this was the same Minister for Age Care who had NFI how many of the people he is paid to look after and protect had died of Covid.

Oh wait ...

Only a government prepared to tolerate Stuart Bible-basher steal-from-the-taxpayer Robert as Minister for IT Failures could have an Age Care Minister of such monumental incompetence.

Is there ANYTHING piss-poor excuse of a human being is capable of doing right?
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In Victoria, there were 3 new local cases (including 1 already reported in the media yesterday) and 0 new overseas-acquired cases. There are now 69 active cases. 57,519 test results were received.
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stui magpie wrote:Victoria is paying a price, again, but blame is questionable.
Not really.

It's pretty clear to me that the feds have let us down by not establishing a national quarantine facility. Then there is the disgrace of aged care...

It's also pretty clear that our state clowns have let us down by continuing with hotel quarantine when it's obvious that it is a flawed system. They were pretty phucking slow at getting the contract tracing up to speed, too.

Pretty much every government over the last 20 or so years is guilty of destroying our health care systems.
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Despite tannin's protestations, as long as we have planes coming into the country we're going to have instances where Covid gets loose, even if we quarantine them all in Darwin.

This is the 4th time Victoria has had to go into lockdown , we have the right to expect better.
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147 days of lockdown for Victorians, 6 for the rest of the country combined...

But it’s all the Feds fault!
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roar wrote:It's also pretty clear that our state clowns have let us down by continuing with hotel quarantine when it's obvious that it is a flawed system.
Not the Victorian ones. They took the lesson from the Airport hotel breakout and revised the Victorian hotel quarantine program to deal much better with aerosols. Sadly, the other states have yet to learn the lesson.
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You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Another eight people have been hit by the AstraZeneca blood clots. That takes the total toll to 41, with one dead as a result and another currently in intensive care. The new cases, like the previous ones, are of all ages, but mostly over 50. This "it's safe if you are over 50" message the government keeps putting out is a flat lie. It is demonstrably not safe.

And another thing: suppose you get the blood clots and go into intensive care, followed by the usual long hospital stay. Who is paying for it? I bet you the Morrison Government doesn't cover all your costs, and even a single day in hospital can cost you thousands.

Not good enough, scumhead. Give us a safe vaccine. You know, like the one you grabbed for yourself.
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