Dandrews' strength of leadership vs. Scotty's dithering

Nick's current affairs & general discussion about anything that's not sport.
Voice your opinion on stories of interest to all at Nick's.

Moderator: bbmods

Post Reply
watt price tully
Posts: 20842
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 1:14 pm

Post by watt price tully »

eddiesmith wrote:Fact- Jon Faine does paid work on behalf of the Victorian government, much like some of the biggest supporters of the Victorian government on Twitter have since been revealed to be paid to support the Government.

Fact- Even the ABC felt that Faine was too obviously tied to the Victorian government by his paid roles there to be considered to even meet their very low standards of journalistic integrity.
What’s the paid employment you talk about?
Put up or shut up
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
User avatar
Lazza
Posts: 12836
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2003 8:01 pm
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia

Post by Lazza »

eddiesmith wrote:Fact- Jon Faine does paid work on behalf of the Victorian government, much like some of the biggest supporters of the Victorian government on Twitter have since been revealed to be paid to support the Government.

Fact- Even the ABC felt that Faine was too obviously tied to the Victorian government by his paid roles there to be considered to even meet their very low standards of journalistic integrity.
Ok Ed Smithy
Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine!
User avatar
Yarra Falls End
Posts: 742
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2004 10:33 pm

Post by Yarra Falls End »

Lazza wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:Fact- Jon Faine does paid work on behalf of the Victorian government, much like some of the biggest supporters of the Victorian government on Twitter have since been revealed to be paid to support the Government.

Fact- Even the ABC felt that Faine was too obviously tied to the Victorian government by his paid roles there to be considered to even meet their very low standards of journalistic integrity.
Ok Ed Smithy
User avatar
David
Posts: 50659
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:04 pm
Location: the edge of the deep green sea
Has liked: 15 times
Been liked: 76 times

Post by David »

Whatever the specific nature of his Victorian government work, the guy's an obvious Labor Party hack. It'd be like getting Chris Kenny to do a profile on Scott Morrison.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
User avatar
eddiesmith
Posts: 12392
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:21 am
Location: Lexus Centre
Has liked: 11 times
Been liked: 24 times

Post by eddiesmith »

Yarra Falls End wrote:
Lazza wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:Fact- Jon Faine does paid work on behalf of the Victorian government, much like some of the biggest supporters of the Victorian government on Twitter have since been revealed to be paid to support the Government.

Fact- Even the ABC felt that Faine was too obviously tied to the Victorian government by his paid roles there to be considered to even meet their very low standards of journalistic integrity.
Ok Ed Smithy
User avatar
stui magpie
Posts: 54828
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 10:10 am
Location: In flagrante delicto
Has liked: 126 times
Been liked: 160 times

Post by stui magpie »

David wrote:Whatever the specific nature of his Victorian government work, the guy's an obvious Labor Party hack. It'd be like getting Chris Kenny to do a profile on Scott Morrison.
Snap.

Except Kenny (as far as I know) isn't on the Liberal payroll. :wink:
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
watt price tully
Posts: 20842
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 1:14 pm

Post by watt price tully »

David wrote:Whatever the specific nature of his Victorian government work, the guy's an obvious Labor Party hack. It'd be like getting Chris Kenny to do a profile on Scott Morrison.
What a lot of rubbish David.

First: Jon Faine is not a paid employee, he is an independent contractor
Second it’s a lazy assertion and false equivalence let alone a simplistic juxtaposition to suggest an alleged dog f*cker like Kenny is the same as Jon Faine.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/episo ... rs/9973500

Faine was ruthless with politicians of all political persuasions in his former role on 774 radio. He even earned the respect of his commercial right wing liberal spruiker Neil Mitchell for his fearless interviews across the political spectrum.
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
User avatar
David
Posts: 50659
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:04 pm
Location: the edge of the deep green sea
Has liked: 15 times
Been liked: 76 times

Post by David »

That may have been the case in the past, but when it comes to journalism, governments know who their mates are.
"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
watt price tully
Posts: 20842
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 1:14 pm

Post by watt price tully »

David wrote:That may have been the case in the past, but when it comes to journalism, governments know who their mates are.
Knowing Jon Faine he would not allow himself to be used as you suggest. His interview would be conditional on questions he would be allowed to ask; there is no way he would be allow his work to my to be edited by the Government. He is a very impressive person both individually and professionally. His reputation for integrity and being fearless is well known.
“I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman
User avatar
stui magpie
Posts: 54828
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 10:10 am
Location: In flagrante delicto
Has liked: 126 times
Been liked: 160 times

Post by stui magpie »

You're viewing your old school mate through very rose coloured glasses there, other less biased views are no less valid.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
User avatar
David
Posts: 50659
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:04 pm
Location: the edge of the deep green sea
Has liked: 15 times
Been liked: 76 times

Post by David »

"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
User avatar
stui magpie
Posts: 54828
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 10:10 am
Location: In flagrante delicto
Has liked: 126 times
Been liked: 160 times

Post by stui magpie »

I'm not that surprised, his media/marketing team have been the most effective part of the Government. The rusted on are now welded on.

What I am surprised at is that his paternalistic authoritarianism has appealed to so many people.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
User avatar
roar
Posts: 4086
Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:55 pm
Been liked: 3 times

Post by roar »

Don't know why you're surprised, we're a very compliant lot. Not many places in the world that are as "nanny" as here.
kill for collingwood!
pietillidie
Posts: 16634
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:41 pm
Has liked: 14 times
Been liked: 28 times

Post by pietillidie »

A lot of the noise does sound a lot like old-school Victorian Lib/Lab barracking. Most people would probably rather not change pandemic leaders midstream because that will only add to the disruption.
In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm
User avatar
stui magpie
Posts: 54828
Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 10:10 am
Location: In flagrante delicto
Has liked: 126 times
Been liked: 160 times

Post by stui magpie »

It's a strange dynamic. The welded on will be enough to get Labor re-elected, despite Libs making some traction.

Despite a growing number of very vocal dissenters and the complete lack of reasoned decision making or accountability, Andrews is indeed Teflon Dan.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
Post Reply