The 2021 Great Big Consolidated Trade & Draft thread

[MJ23]

23 years old Lipkinski 1.87 cm and 80 kg has been offered a 3 year deal to stay at Western Bulldogs
He is out of contract at seasons end

AFL stats and Dogs site has him at 190cm and 85kgs.

Id Prefer Lipinski Out of all of - Stephens, Naish, Caddy, Wallis, Dow that in some way have been linked to us.

Could be a swap for Sier. Interestingly they were taken about 3 spots from each other in the draft and the Sier had done pre-season at the dogs.

If not that, a future third or PSD - dogs do not have all the cards here.

[BazBoy]

Those height/weight stat better than my Wikipedia one

He is size weight age perfect

[BazBoy]

See that Doggies are struggling to amass points for father /son prospect Sam Darcy and may need to ease some players out
Patrick maybe

[Presti35]

Brayden Sier for Nathan Krueger (straight swap)

Sier for Cash Cow Paddy Dow.

[masoncox]

Brayden Sier for Nathan Krueger (straight swap)

Sier for Cash Cow Paddy Dow.

I would keep Sier.
But I would be in a minority there.
Still think big hard body mids are difficult to find

[Presti35]

Sier's lack of commitment is the problem.

[Pies2016]

So here’s my take on a REALISTIC outcome for our trading period -

1 ) free agent signing ( either delisted, restricted or unrestricted ) No trade involved. Anticipated best 22 player and chosen to satisfy immediate needs.
2 ) trade in one best 22 player. Would need to figure as a long term prospect and we should assume any trade would be fair market value. Possible fringe player swap and / or late second, early third round draft pick going out ( possibly future )
3 ) #2 pick in pre season draft. Likely best 22 player who comes with no trade attached.
4 ) trading out of multiple ( 2 - 4 ) fringe players. Required to free up cap room for above and gain us a few precious late picks for Daicos.

There’s a lot of opportunity at Collingwood with so many holes on our list.
I think we would now be seen as desirable enough to play for but our limited trading stocks and cap space will ultimately inhibit the quality of who we bring in next year.

[inxs88]

Sier's lack of commitment is the problem.

It's the perennial knock on him and justified

[Lazza]

I don’t think we can instantly become a destination club based on a few days that made us fans happy. A lot of hard bargaining and negotiation needs to happen just to get half the players we are apparently interested in. The good news is that we will have an experienced and cagey recruitment team led by Wrighty who know the hoops and jumps required. Will be interesting to see.

[MJ23]

^ yeah but Lipinski does not nominate us without having had some discussion.

I think McRae will attract players now, especially if we land a couple of the senior assistants with him.

I dont buy into the cap issue we supposedly have - there are a lot of reasons a footy director would want that to be what the industry thinks is the case

[MJ23]

^ with Sier one of two things.

1. new coach sees what he could be and believes he can get the best out of him. In this case he stays perhaps on a 1 year deal.

2. new coach is happy to use him for some currency and a coach right now at another club believes point 1. We use him for another fringe player or points for Daicos.

[think positive]

He is like a rusty old Holden.

Running on one cylinder

Yeah I’d rather bring Greenwood back out of retirement. I just remember a poster here being right into Cunnington all year.

better a rusty holden than a brand new first on rubbish dump!

[inxs88]

Get the vibe from Macrae's comments that he is leaving the list management "deductions" to Wright who has obvious better visibility on those relevant. Think we shall see:

* Cox: off to a team like the Gold Coast for a late pick or a swap for Brodie
* Sier: off to a team like the Hawks or Swans for a late late pick
* Lynch: would be suited to the Dogs with perhaps a Lipinski link albeit they'll prefer draft points for Sam Darcy
* Thomas: free agent but shall be lucky to find a suitor and we shall get nothing in return unless we do an Angus Monfries "clayton's trade" for a nominal unused pick from said club.

[Ronnie McKeowns boots]

He is like a rusty old Holden.

Running on one cylinder

Yeah I’d rather bring Greenwood back out of retirement. I just remember a poster here being right into Cunnington all year.

Cunnington is the new Kane Tenace....who might be worth a look as development coach, finally find a space for him

[woodys_world69]

Swap Cox for chopped liver