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Jezza wrote:Lipinski would be a great recruit. Helps bolster our midfield and would be a part of our long-term plans.
Getting Tom Lynch as a delisted free agent would be handy while the likes of Henry, McCreery and Ginnivan are still developing.
I know the club has had big wraps on Dylan Stephens from the Swans as well. The Swans have major salary cap issues so they will be looking to offload a few players to ease those constraints.
I dont rate Stephens at all. I watched him in two games and he did nothing that stood out at all. Gulden and Campbell have gone past him already.
To be fair - 2 games alone might not be a great sample size.
I saw Lipinski live in a VFL game and he starred. Again thats one game in the reserves I just liked what I saw.
Either way, both players are seen as outside the best 25-30 players in their own teams. Both teams have salary cap issues and we have 2nd pick PSD. I wouldnt be paying much for them - there is no need.
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Whether by good luck or good management, I really like the trade position we find ourselves in, considering how little trade currency we have to splash.
We already find ourselves with a decent player who has declared we are one of two clubs he wishes to relocate to. Most sports journos are saying Lipinski will much more be likely to find his way to the Pies than Carlton. He’s out of contract and any trade would be done on our terms. I would expect we would say you can have our future third rounder. Take it or leave it or lose him for nothing in the PSD and that remains a steal for us. ( the equivalent of a likely early pick in forties )
Then there is the number of restricted, unrestricted and delisted free agents on the market. Trades aren’t required but the quality players on that list would attract premium contracts because of multiple suitors.
This scenario at least provides us with another opportunity to secure a player we could consider as a quick fix improvement to our best 22. Players like Parker, Hewett, Chol, Lynch, Talia, Naish and others all fit the free agency scenario this year
Finally and still with no trade required, is pick 2 in the pre season draft.
It won’t take much to orchestrate a situation where an out of contract player is offered a better future at Collingwood and that player simply refuses to re-sign with his soon to be, former club. Again, we can either offer up a very one sided trade option or just wait for that player to walk through to the PSD and become ours for nothing.
Cap space remains the big question mark but I have no doubt Collingwood will look very closely at moving a couple lesser lights on, in order to free up both our cap and add in a few more points for the Daicos bid.
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Jezza wrote:Lipinski would be a great recruit. Helps bolster our midfield and would be a part of our long-term plans.
Getting Tom Lynch as a delisted free agent would be handy while the likes of Henry, McCreery and Ginnivan are still developing.
I know the club has had big wraps on Dylan Stephens from the Swans as well. The Swans have major salary cap issues so they will be looking to offload a few players to ease those constraints.
I dont rate Stephens at all. I watched him in two games and he did nothing that stood out at all. Gulden and Campbell have gone past him already.
To be fair - 2 games alone might not be a great sample size.
I saw Lipinski live in a VFL game and he starred. Again thats one game in the reserves I just liked what I saw.
Either way, both players are seen as outside the best 25-30 players in their own teams. Both teams have salary cap issues and we have 2nd pick PSD. I wouldnt be paying much for them - there is no need.
Mick McGuane called him "a one-trick pony" and in hindsight he had the breakout debut season but likely was worked out by the opposition after that. I was angry at first when we traded him - top ten pick, Rising Star winner and we really got nothing for him. He may develop but based on what I saw, aside from 1 or 2 good games, he didn't seem like much of a factor. We'll likely feel vindicated about those three trades.
If Coleman-Jones and Brander are gettable, then I say we go for them both. I think their styles would complement each other nicely in our forward line.
I'm not usually a fan of trading out our future firsts, especially since we try to do it every year. But the point of holding on to our 2022 first rounder is that it will probably be very valuable and that we will need a valuable pick to finally get the KPF we've been crying out for since Trav left.
We will most likely be bottom 4 next year. Maybe even bottom 2. Can we split that pick into 2 picks around the #10 mark? Use one on Brander and the other on CCJ.
Alternatively, pick up one of those forwards and draft capital for Lipinski etc.
Bear in mind that if we are trading our future first, then we will probably have to make assurances that we won't trash it by going into debt for Daicos. So maybe it's future first for one of the forwards and 2 seconds, one of which could be traded.
Geek wrote:
We will most likely be bottom 4 next year. Maybe even bottom 2..
I beg to differ. Not too sure that its due to McRae being appointed but I feel that we will end up around position 12 or 13. Just a hunch because I don’t think that we are a position 17 team if we didn’t have bad luck with injuries.
Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine!
Geek wrote:
We will most likely be bottom 4 next year. Maybe even bottom 2..
I beg to differ. Not too sure that its due to McRae being appointed but I feel that we will end up around position 12 or 13. Just a hunch because I don’t think that we are a position 17 team if we didn’t have bad luck with injuries.
2012: Bad luck with injuries
2013: Bad luck with injuries
2014: Bad luck with injuries
2015: Bad luck with injuries
2016: Bad luck with injuries
2017: Bad luck with injuries
2018: Bad luck with injuries
2019: Bad luck with injuries
2020: Bad luck with injuries *
2021: Bad luck with injuries
Granted, we had a diabolical draw in '20 with that 4 games in 13 days in 3 states fiasco.
We need to be significantly better than most of the other teams and it will take time to get there, probably 2 or 3 seasons. Hence patience required.
Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine!
Wright was the Maestro behind the Hawks three peat of flags, we are in very good hands. Just on Darcy Cameron, i cant see us keeping him, or Josh Thomas, WHE im not sure, same with Cox, guess its all list management. I think that Coleman jones would be much better than Cameron, who really has never impressed me all that much. The plot thickens.
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