The 2021 Great Big Consolidated Trade & Draft thread

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I still kinda hope we can get Sam Weideman back "home" from the Deees, hes not bad up forward, can take a grab, good kick, and be great to have another "Weed" at the Club, he wont get a game with the Dees now. Just saying.
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Pies2016 wrote:^ ^ ^

MJ23, To me, the interest in Stephens is pretty simple.
If the club are “ bullish “ he’s a best 22 player for the next few years, then we’re obliged to show interest, particularly if the trade was looking like unders.
Im sure we’re now both a very different and better club under Wright, so you put your faith in him and the footy dept to get it right.
What we don’t want, is to be contracting three new fringe players who cost us $800,000 in total and then we’re automatically out of the game when a quality free agent KPF is available.
I accept finding a focal point is usually the last piece of the premiership window puzzle. Most dynasty teams tended to have built defence and mids first and then polished up the team with a key forward to kick to.
As I said, in the case of players like Lipinski and possibly Stephens, you’re trusting the club to correctly assess that players full potential.
sorry, I was referencing our need for A-grade mids. Some we might already have and we wont know until they develop. Some we may need to brig in or Draft.

Im not a big fan of Stephens - IF he were to come to us Id be more than happy to be proven wrong. Right now hes got younger kids going past him at the Swans. I saw Lipinski live and liked what I saw.
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^ ^ ^
Got it. And yes, you can always find room for an A grader.
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Piesnchess wrote:I still kinda hope we can get Sam Weideman back "home" from the Deees, hes not bad up forward, can take a grab, good kick, and be great to have another "Weed" at the Club, he wont get a game with the Dees now. Just saying.
He wont get a game at the Dees because he is below average he wont get a game at Collingwood for same reason. Remember Queens birthday FOUR handballs total disposals
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Piesnchess wrote:I still kinda hope we can get Sam Weideman back "home" from the Deees, hes not bad up forward, can take a grab, good kick, and be great to have another "Weed" at the Club, he wont get a game with the Dees now. Just saying.
Prefer we look at someone like Schlensog if we're after KPP types. Firstly because I don't particularly rate the Weid on what we've seen to date, and secondly because of potential trade price as a DFA.

If I'm not mistaken we can also add him to the list via PSS after we draft ND meaning we retain vacant list spots for ND points.
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Macattacks wrote:Schlensog Amiss Stengle cost nothing if we are going to use what little biccies we have on the likes of Lipinski Stephens or Krueger.
Cal Twomey has Jye Amiss going at Pick 11.
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Magpie Russ wrote:
Macattacks wrote:Schlensog Amiss Stengle cost nothing if we are going to use what little biccies we have on the likes of Lipinski Stephens or Krueger.
Cal Twomey has Jye Amiss going at Pick 11.
So a miss then 8)
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Going from Ben 'injuries" Reid to Sam "injuries" Reid. Jesus, it's like a music fan going from Spandau Ballet to Nickleback

Thanks for that, I laughed out loud big time.
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piedys wrote:As I recall, no AFL club has been penalised for a salary cap breach since Carlton nearly 20 years ago
Adelaide had draft sanctions applied in 2012. Between that and the 2002 Carlton incident you mentioned, multiple clubs (including us) received financial penalties:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_salary_cap#Breaches

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Weed as a defender maybe... as a forward, pass
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Herald Sun - Sam Landsberger, Jon Ralph, Glenn McFarlane and Jay Clark wrote:Uncertainty surrounds key forward at Dees

Sam Weideman is no certainty to be offered a new AFL contract as the full-forward’s career reaches uncertainty.

It is understood that Melbourne was yet to make Weideman an offer and rival interest from the 17 other clubs was also skinny.

Weideman played five consecutive games from Rounds 9-13 this season.

The tall forward, 24, has booted 49 goals in 49 games since he was taken at No.9 in 2015.
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Magpie Russ wrote:Weideman played five consecutive games from Rounds 9-13 this season
Averages over those 5 games:

Kicks----------3.8
Handball------4.2
Disposals-----8.0
Marks---------3.2
Goals---------0.6
Goal Assists--0.4
Behinds-------0.8
Tackles--------1.8
Hitouts--------0.2
Frees for------0.6
Frees against-0.2
Clangers------1.8
I50s-----------0.8
AF/SC points--41

Nothing to get excited about there... JT has better numbers
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^ ^ ^
Mitch Brown has a one year deal in front of him, so I wouldn’t have thought that bodes well for Weed. Similar tall forward types, one with an offer and one without and neither currently getting a game. B. Brown, Jackson and McDonald all ahead of them both.
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
Magpie Russ wrote:Weideman played five consecutive games from Rounds 9-13 this season
Averages over those 5 games:

Kicks----------3.8
Handball------4.2
Disposals-----8.0
Marks---------3.2
Goals---------0.6
Goal Assists--0.4
Behinds-------0.8
Tackles--------1.8
Hitouts--------0.2
Frees for------0.6
Frees against-0.2
Clangers------1.8
I50s-----------0.8
AF/SC points--41

Nothing to get excited about there... JT has better numbers
That means we can get him cheap. Under our new coaches, he will be transformed into a champion player!
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piedys wrote:
Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:Reid turns 30 this year. UFA
So if he is forced out of Pink ducks cap, do we take him?

He is probably a better bet for a year or two than Lynch [Crows DFA] or Jenkins [likely to be cut at Geebung].
If he spends half the season in the medical room, so be it. It will be cheap bargain get, without a warranty; buyer beware.
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