eddiesmith wrote:think positive wrote:eddiesmith wrote:
At the same time I hope the investigation includes looking into their orders for the day. The cops were very clearly given free reign to do whatever they liked against the protesters and some clearly took it too far.
But if command is giving them too much leeway then some of the blame needs to fall back on them.
no it is not part of the job at all. its not part of any job. common decency and respect for others means its not part of the job.
no they were not given free reign at all, cops were up all night strategically planning the response to stop a repeat or worse of what happened on the westgate. watch them as they took back the Shrine. they did a fricken brilliant job.
Well judging from some of the footage including the incident in question, they definitely acted like they had free reign to do whatever they wanted.
But if you go into a situation where you are going to physically provoke people and get into violent confrontations then you can't be the sort of person who'd lose their cool enough to then come and slam a bloke's head into the ground whilst he's not even looking at you.
It's the job you signed up for and if you can't cope, then there are plenty of other jobs. Every emergency services job comes with it's challenges, its why the process is so stringent and lots of checks along the way to weed out those who can't cope with the reality of what they will face.
Btw this isn't an attack on cops, I'm the last person who'd denigrate all police, but the bad eggs who provide the ammunition for their detractors.
so yesterday I saw some very interesting footage. they were not provoked, and indeed even a journo reknown for his bad reporting in these cases can be seen saying the police have been telling them all day, you are free to leave, but you need to leave individually in compliance with WHO directives, please leave, you are free to leave. and there were no police behind the shrine until these was a scuffle umungst protestors.
they were simply advancing 10 steps, then another 10, then retreating 10 while repeating the above over and over. up til they got to the shrine they were simply making sure people were not gathering as per WHO directive of no more than 2 people together at a time (this was in strictist times) so yes while you are free to protest normally, when your in lockdown and only allowed to be in groups of 2, no protesting is not legal. and yes FOR THE GREATER GOOD! but not as youd think that means, so protestors dont protest, so the fricken virus doesnt get a hold, and looky here, 2 weeks later....
as for being fired on, they were non lethal rounds and they were not fired on until the stopped throwing plastic drink bottles and started chucking steel taps and glass bottles, one cop received a massice gash on their face.
and yes it was an attack on cops!
that one cop at the station, lets just say hes done! 1 bad cop. 1 hell of a lot of damn thugs who were not part of the CFMU!
