Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[What'sinaname]

^ They can stop reporting the fake numbers now that the tracking microchip has been implanted into the bulk of the population. No need to scare people into getting the tracking implant.

[roar]

Meanwhile, as of 11:59pm tonight, anyone from anywhere in NSW can enter Victoria without any quarantine requirement provided they're fully vasccinated, yet I'm fully vaccinated and can't legally go to my house in NSW.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-19/ ... /100549554

Is this a Marx Brothers movie?

More like a Kafka novel.

[Dave The Man]

Victoria numbers

The number of active Covid cases in Victoria has risen to 22,598 after a further 1841 positive results were added to the tally in the past 24 hours following 78,928 tests.

The Department of Health announced a further 12 people had died of the virus.

New data shows Victoria is on track to hit the 70 per cent vaccination threshold on Thursday.

NSW numbers

NSW has recorded 283 new Covid cases and seven more people have died.

I'm quite surprised that the NSW numbers keep going down. They must at least plateau soon with the reopening.

I don't get it either how NSW Cases are Falling while Victoria's staying the same?

[stui magpie]

^ They can stop reporting the fake numbers now that the tracking microchip has been implanted into the bulk of the population. No need to scare people into getting the tracking implant.

I love that one, as if the Governments needed tracking implants, QR codes or Apps to track people, most of us carry tracking devices everywhere we go.

[stui magpie]

This may be interesting.

Victoria's government has been ordered to release the details of confidential lockdown briefings after the state's privacy commission found there was significant public interest.

Key points:
Public Access Deputy Commissioner Joanne Kummrow ordered the release of more than 100 pages of briefings related to February's five-day lockdown
She rejected the Department of Health's argument that the release of the documents would "affect the frankness and candour" of future advice
The advice could be released within a fortnight if the department does not appeal against the decision
The Office of the Victorian Information Commissioner (OVIC) ruling relates to February's five-day lockdown but may pave the way for the advice behind other measures to be released.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-20/ ... /100552548

Transparency of decision making, opportunity to see exactly how much of what was based on health advice. We already know that the Curfew which the CHO signed off on, wasn't based on health advice.

[David]

Good. All of this stuff should absolutely be public knowledge.

[Dave The Man]

So when Boosters start coming out for people who where Vaccinated very early?

[Dave The Man]

This may be interesting.

Victoria's government has been ordered to release the details of confidential lockdown briefings after the state's privacy commission found there was significant public interest.

Key points:
Public Access Deputy Commissioner Joanne Kummrow ordered the release of more than 100 pages of briefings related to February's five-day lockdown
She rejected the Department of Health's argument that the release of the documents would "affect the frankness and candour" of future advice
The advice could be released within a fortnight if the department does not appeal against the decision
The Office of the Victorian Information Commissioner (OVIC) ruling relates to February's five-day lockdown but may pave the way for the advice behind other measures to be released.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-20/ ... /100552548

Transparency of decision making, opportunity to see exactly how much of what was based on health advice. We already know that the Curfew which the CHO signed off on, wasn't based on health advice.

Then the Liberal Propaganda Machine will love it.

Even with them trying to keep People Safe

[stui magpie]

Read the article Dave, we deserve to know how decisions were made.

[stui magpie]

So when Boosters start coming out for people who where Vaccinated very early?

Soon. I heard it on the radio this morning, they'll be looking first at people with compromised health, then everyone else at the 6-8 month mark past second shot.

[stui magpie]

Interesting article by Nick Coatsworth and Catherine Bennett on why Victoria has far more conservative restrictions at the 80% fully vaxxed mark. And when you look at the table in the article, quite different.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 59195.html

The summary conclusion seems to be that Victoria is relying on inconclusive data and taking a conservative approach with it. The summary is:

There is a fundamental starting point in science that in seeking proof that an intervention is effective, it should be first assumed that the intervention does not work, and we seek evidence to disprove this. That seems to have been lost in Victoria’s approach to pandemic policy, and we desperately need it back.

[Dave The Man]

Read the article Dave, we deserve to know how decisions were made.

Yes but I just think people will just use it to abuse Dan who was doing the best he thought for the State

[Dave The Man]

Interesting article by Nick Coatsworth and Catherine Bennett on why Victoria has far more conservative restrictions at the 80% fully vaxxed mark. And when you look at the table in the article, quite different.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 59195.html

The summary conclusion seems to be that Victoria is relying on inconclusive data and taking a conservative approach with it. The summary is:

There is a fundamental starting point in science that in seeking proof that an intervention is effective, it should be first assumed that the intervention does not work, and we seek evidence to disprove this. That seems to have been lost in Victoria’s approach to pandemic policy, and we desperately need it back.

I rather be Safe then Sorry

[Dave The Man]

So when Boosters start coming out for people who where Vaccinated very early?

Soon. I heard it on the radio this morning, they'll be looking first at people with compromised health, then everyone else at the 6-8 month mark past second shot.

Okay Thanks Stui.

Guess I was in the 1b Group I might be in the 1st lot to get a Booster

[Dave The Man]

https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/14 ... 93287?s=20

Interesting to see the other Side of coming out of Lockdown for People