The 2021 Great Big Consolidated Trade & Draft thread

Tanuki · Post by **Tanuki** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:36 pm

Pies have chosen to not nominate Dib.

magpieazza · Post by **magpieazza** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:08 pm

Im a bit surprised the club chose to not nominate Dib as NGA.
He was rated in team of the year at one stage so Im a little bemused that the club didnt keep the option open. I mean we could have picked him up for peanuts...idk. must be something in it.

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:19 pm

Tanuki wrote:Pies have chosen to not nominate Dib.

My guess its about protecting picks / points
If a club selects him between 20-40 they know now they will have to take him. They may want him so be it.
If they didnt really want him and were forcing us into a potential deficit next year or to lose a pick before their next it sends a message.

I wouldn't be surprised if we dont take him with a later pick

Hitchhiker · Post by **Hitchhiker** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:20 pm

Interesting, I'm not sure exactly how this works

If the pies had nominated him, would they then be forced to draft him (given no other club had bid on him)?

There's talk the pies are looking to trade back into this years draft, maybe they think the picks they'll get will be higher than where they rate Dib

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:22 pm

^ could very well be part of it as well

Post by **piffdog** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:24 pm

MJ23 wrote:
Tanuki wrote:Pies have chosen to not nominate Dib.
My guess its about protecting picks / points
If a club selects him between 20-40 they know now they will have to take him. They may want him so be it.
If they didnt really want him and were forcing us into a potential deficit next year or to lose a pick before their next it sends a message.

I wouldn't be surprised if we dont take him with a later pick

I think you have it here. If we nominate him then others know how we will have to react at any stage in the draft. Maybe we stil lend up picking the guy, but its an untainted selection at the stage in the draft we think appropriate. If someone rates him higher then best wishes and we move on.

Post by **Pies2016** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:08 pm

You will never get a better chance to pluck a Smokey from a draft than to call out a Vic kid who won’t have played more than seven NAB Cup games in the last two years. There’s also been more injuries than ever in the U19 comp on the back of an interrupted preseason due to Covid. I’m hoping we can get back in before the thirties and add one more decent pick in along with Daicos.
Anything outside of that would be an absolute bonus.

Charlie Oneeye · Post by **Charlie Oneeye** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:22 pm

Just the fact that he was training with us, I thought he may have potential.

Other than that, I didn't see any reason to rate him as a selection at all. To me he looked at best average across the 2 teams playing.

If we take other interstate teams onto account, etc that would rate him outside the top 100.

As subjective as it gets, from my sofa, I didn't see any particular attribute stand out.

Charlie Oneeye · Post by **Charlie Oneeye** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:29 pm

Aiden Begg on the other hand, I reckon we are going to love this kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9zpmpQFq8

Right at the start, 4 second mark. In that instant, his hair and stride looks like :

Ben Brown

Go Pies !

Post by **Pies2016** » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:04 pm

Charlie Oneeye wrote:Aiden Begg on the other hand, I reckon we are going to love this kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9zpmpQFq8

Right at the start, 4 second mark. In that instant, his hair and stride looks like :

Ben Brown

Go Pies !

Grown another 3cm since we first recruited him. He’s now around 200cm

MJ23 · Post by **MJ23** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 8:26 am

Pies2016 wrote:
Charlie Oneeye wrote:Aiden Begg on the other hand, I reckon we are going to love this kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc9zpmpQFq8

Right at the start, 4 second mark. In that instant, his hair and stride looks like :

Ben Brown

Go Pies !

Grown another 3cm since we first recruited him. He’s now around 200cm

Yep, I think he'd have gone very early in this draft if we didn't take him mid season.
Could very well be the forward we have been looking for. Just needs some time.

think better · Post by **think better** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:30 am

jackcass wrote:Cox extending confirmed….

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/1 ... on-for-one

Really pleased to see this - he works hard on his game and if his mojo is up he can tears games apart.

Lazza · Post by **Lazza** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:07 am

think better wrote:
jackcass wrote:Cox extending confirmed….

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/1 ... on-for-one
Really pleased to see this - he works hard on his game and if his mojo is up he can tears games apart.

He needs to be far more consistent and make his presence felt.

Also on another point regarding Dib, there have been many players picked up in previous drafts by other clubs and not by the club they trained at.

think better · Post by **think better** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:25 am

Lazza wrote:
think better wrote:
jackcass wrote:Cox extending confirmed….

https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/1 ... on-for-one
Really pleased to see this - he works hard on his game and if his mojo is up he can tears games apart.
He needs to be far more consistent and make his presence felt.

Yep couldn't agree more. I have a personal theory that his 'football maturity' trajectory is similar to a 23 or 24 year old tall player who has played a lot of footy in their younger years. I think he may well get better in the next year or so and bring more consistency to his game.

Podpicken · Post by **Podpicken** » Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:35 am

think better wrote:
Lazza wrote:
think better wrote: Really pleased to see this - he works hard on his game and if his mojo is up he can tears games apart.
He needs to be far more consistent and make his presence felt.

Yep couldn't agree more. I have a personal theory that his 'football maturity' trajectory is similar to a 23 or 24 year old tall player who has played a lot of footy in their younger years. I think he may well get better in the next year or so and bring more consistency to his game.

I wouldn't be surprised if the giant Texan kicks 40+ this year. He needs a big pre-season

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