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What'sinaname wrote:We wont be locked down, but there will be lock outs.


we'll be able to leave home, even visit each other, but they will restrict mass gathering and other "superspreader" events
So does that mean they will stop people going to Sports like the AFL when it starts up again? or will they have Caps like 1st Half of this Season?

Also I guess IF this Happens be Cap on how many people allowed to go to your House per Day
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They’ll use new language, you can leave home for any reason you like but nothing will be open so it’s not really a lockdown because we promised no more lockdowns…
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Another implication of Omicron is further worker shortages, which will in turn pressure supply chains and inflation. The initial news will be frontline workers, but it will generalise across the economy.
Sadiq Khan said Friday's 26,000 new cases in London were having an impact on staff absences for the capital's emergency services.

He said that NHS trusts, councils, the fire service, police and City Hall were "incredibly concerned by the huge surge in the Omicron variant".

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[Some prof] said experts would know more about the new Omicron variant in the next weeks. But an initial research has shown that a Covid booster shot could provide around 85% protection against severe illness.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

Data in this report starting to show rising hospital numbers:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

Clarification just can't come quick enough. The UK is leading the charge with infection rates, so all eyes are on what's happening here bearing in mind waves to follow in Europe and then the US. But even with so much science devoted to the problem it's still hard to get a handle on the impact. Frustrating.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-19/ ... /100711620
The NSW government is being urged to take a cautious approach to the rise of COVID-19 cases, and reintroduce restrictions.

The call from Australian Medical Association president Omar Khorshid came after the state set a national record on Saturday, with 2,482 locally acquired infections.

NSW Health says it is likely the majority of them are the Omicron variant.

A raft of restrictions, including those around masks, QR check-ins and proof of vaccination, were relaxed this week. Changes were also made to definitions of close contacts and isolation status.

Dr Khorshid said living with the virus did not mean letting it rip like in NSW, where instead of the curve being flattened, it was almost vertical.

'"It's very bizarre timing from the New South Wales government to pull out a mask mandate just when you are seeing an incredible spike in cases that matches what's happening around the world," he said.

He said mandatory measures were urgently needed to protect the healthcare system and workers who had been "stepping up for an awfully long time now".

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"Hospitalisations lag behind infections quite significantly, by a week or even two weeks," he said.

"It's too late once we actually see a sharp rise in hospitalisations.

"And the right thing to do right now is try and flatten that curve a little bit, because we don't know what proportion of people who get Omicron are going to end up in hospital."
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Netherlands and lot of Europe Country are going back into Lockdown again

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/ ... 59iqm.html
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The UK Government's SPI-M-O group of scientists estimated on Wednesday (but just published) that in the UK - absent stricter measures - there will be between 600,000 and 2 million new infections per day for the period late December 2021 to January 2022, between 3,000 and 10,000 new hospitalisations per day between January and February 2022 and between 600 and 6,000 deaths per day between January and March 2022.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ember-2021
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Nostradamus predicted end of days, as did the bible and the Mayan Calendar along with several Covid "experts".

None of these predictions have yet come true, maybe they will or maybe they won't. I'm taking Mum in to get our booster shots tomorrow and after that I'm good to go.

If I catch Covid, which is highly likely, I'll rely on the vaccination immunity and expect not much more than a cold.
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stui magpie wrote:Nostradamus predicted end of days, as did the bible and the Mayan Calendar along with several Covid "experts".

None of these predictions have yet come true, maybe they will or maybe they won't. I'm taking Mum in to get our booster shots tomorrow and after that I'm good to go.

If I catch Covid, which is highly likely, I'll rely on the vaccination immunity and expect not much more than a cold.
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What'sinaname wrote:
stui magpie wrote:Nostradamus predicted end of days, as did the bible and the Mayan Calendar along with several Covid "experts".

None of these predictions have yet come true, maybe they will or maybe they won't. I'm taking Mum in to get our booster shots tomorrow and after that I'm good to go.

If I catch Covid, which is highly likely, I'll rely on the vaccination immunity and expect not much more than a cold.
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What does that even mean in the context of the article?
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Victoria has gone back to treating Omicron contacts the same as any other strain, no longer panicking about it unlike some people.
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By "some people", I take it you mean the whole of Europe.
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Pies4shaw wrote:By "some people", I take it you mean the whole of Europe.
No, plenty of folk all around believing the doomsday predictions about Omicron and ignoring the data out of South Africa.

But Europe is interesting given if you go back six months when Dan was locking down Victoria for a 6th time everyone was crying about Europe being open and Australians being locked down all because of the lack of vaccine.

Yet after 12 months of vaccine availability, European countries considering going back into lockdown. Must be ScoMo's fault as well...
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eddiesmith wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:By "some people", I take it you mean the whole of Europe.
No, plenty of folk all around believing the doomsday predictions about Omicron and ignoring the data out of South Africa.
'Plenty of folk all around' think all kinds of things. You're fighting straw men.

Anyone vaguely qualified or serious is watching South Africa very closely and trying to interpret the data as it comes through.

Note to science community: eddiesmith thinks you should take a look at the South African data, just in case you hadn't thought of doing so. (Oh, and neurologists, don't forget to check out his brain surgery tutorials on YouTube).
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All hell is about to break loose book your booster
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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