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Hospitalisations 1,950 Australia-wide. That's (yet another) record - and nearly 4 times the number a month ago.
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Hospitalisations and waitlists are being hit hard here despite Omicron being milder, so the headline below doesn't surprise. But it's more subtle than just surgery wait lists, as best practices like follow-up appointments and scans are skirted, and people are discouraged from seeking treatment in the first place by long waits and overrun facilities.
Pandemic’s Hidden Toll: Millions in U.K. Await Treatment, but Not for Covid-19

Noncoronavirus patients face delayed elective surgeries and medical procedures for other illnesses
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pandemics- ... 1640606405
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Pies4shaw wrote:^ I would prefer that people stop pretending it is all OK solely on the basis that they want it to be OK.
Well, the experts say we're all going to catch it and there's no need to panic.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/lear ... 59l8q.html


So I'm not pretending it is all ok, it IS all ok.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/why- ... 59l42.html
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Officially, 1,964 in hospital, nationwide. With Victoria's cute "The health department said a further 46 patients were in ICU but their infections were no longer considered active", that takes us beyond 2,000 people in hospital from the effects of COVID, today.
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And?

3 months ago it was 1500, then steadily went down to stay around 500 for a while then has just spiked hard in the past 7 days. Most of those hospitalization will be in and out quickly, expect numbers to start going down again in a few weeks
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The present hospitalisation numbers derive largely from new positive cases identified last week and the week before.

And, of course, Australia is already recording hospitalisations at rates a third higher than were experienced at the height of the Delta outbreak - but you should feel free to pretend it isn't happening or isn't significant, if you want.
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No pretending involved. Your doom and gloom predictions have been consistently wrong but hey, stopped clock........

We're on the way out and the fear campaign is so 2020-21. Welcome to the endemic.
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With Cases Skyrocketing it almost feel like it's not IF but When I get Covid
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Dave The Man wrote:With Cases Skyrocketing it almost feel like it's not IF but When I get Covid
You're going to get it, we all are, it's just a mater of when. Get your booster and don't stress
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stui magpie wrote:
Dave The Man wrote:With Cases Skyrocketing it almost feel like it's not IF but When I get Covid
You're going to get it, we all are, it's just a mater of when. Get your booster and don't stress
I sure will keep getting Boosters
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stui magpie wrote:Yet in Victoria, dodgy reporting or not, those cases make up less than 10% of the ICU capacity so while the front line workers would be bloody busy the system is not stretched or anywhere near breaking point.

With the changes to testing requiements the daily case numbers become truly meaningless as they will be massively understated, the real measures will be hospitalisations and ICU cases.

Up in Toc it seems like all the Victorians left their masks at home. The supermarket is jam packed with maskless people and very few bother to use the QR checkins and no-one cares.
Was in Moama tonight, I just assumed masks were no longer needed in NSW when we were the only ones wearing them!
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stui magpie wrote:And?

3 months ago it was 1500, then steadily went down to stay around 500 for a while then has just spiked hard in the past 7 days. Most of those hospitalization will be in and out quickly, expect numbers to start going down again in a few weeks
In NSW, half of the hospital admissions aren't COVID related.

"The state’s Health Minister has revealed that many of those listed as having being “hospitalised” for the virus are simply testing positive in routine checks after being admitted for broken bones, labour pains or even mental health issues."

The milder Omicron means that these people wouldn't even have presented to hospital if not for another reason.
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You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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Pies4shaw wrote:The present hospitalisation numbers derive largely from new positive cases identified last week and the week before.

And, of course, Australia is already recording hospitalisations at rates a third higher than were experienced at the height of the Delta outbreak - but you should feel free to pretend it isn't happening or isn't significant, if you want.
They need to put up new numbers so people properly grasp it. A list of how long patients have been in icu. This is what Morrigu explained to me, it just keeps building, we still need to flatten the curve as much as possible even if we will all get covid eventually.. because more than a few of the high risk through no fault of their own category are still alive, still at risk, and then there is the selfish/irresponsible/doctorgoogle ones who think they are too special to get the jab.

I’ve read a couple of the British long covid articles, yes Omicrom seems milder, but how much of that is due to vaccine rates?

And yeah well I guess a few have decided that our over worked front line workers don’t deserve special consideration any more!

It’s not over. If we are just a tad sensible, masks in shops, and other places where it’s clearly obvious you could catch something from someone, sanitising your hands and trolley, take a test if your feeling shit, any test, and yes roll your damn sleeve up! Is that really so hard?

How many ofthe clusters that blew this out of the water were caused by people who simply didn’t give a shit and put themselves first? Even though the suspected, or had to suspect, or even some that knew they were positive and still went to a nightclub or a Christmas party?

Human nature can be so disappointing!
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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