Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[Dave The Man]

Probably not the (pandemic high) 221 Australians who've died of COVID in the last week.

So do we need to go back into Lockdown then to try and bring back down again?

Lockdowns don't work. Look at the Netherlands

and we have too many Cases for it to make much Difference.

Though we seem to be Opening up even more with such High Numbers.

Like QLD will let anyone in at anytime by Road/Driving as they getting rid of the Borders/Checks

[pietillidie]

God's tech support receives a call on the pandemic...

https://youtu.be/BwaQRTo1Efo

Damned smug Canadians!

[pietillidie]

The risks of Omicron playing out in different ways in countries with different demographics, health profiles, policies, vaccination rates, etc., are potentially being realised in North America:

The puzzle of America's record Covid hospital rate

Even as the Omicron variant sweeps around the world, public health officials have noted that, in most cases, the number of Covid patients in hospitals remains significantly lower than during previous pandemic surges.

That's not the case in the US, however, where the number of patients with the coronavirus currently in hospital has reached record numbers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59960949

[think positive]

That’s easy!
1: massive obesity problem, huge!!
2: massive homeless numbers
3. A medical system only the upper middle and above income earners can afford. People have other ailments they can’t afford to treat, that leave them at risk so they get a worse case of covid.
4. Addiction is rife. Ie when they get sick they really get sick.
5. So many conspiracy theorists, so many selfish **** who won’t wear a mask, or social distance, take a test, get a shot.

The land of the free is too free.

And that’s in no particular order.

[Dave The Man]

That’s easy!
1: massive obesity problem, huge!!
2: massive homeless numbers
3. A medical system only the upper middle and above income earners can afford. People have other ailments they can’t afford to treat, that leave them at risk so they get a worse case of covid.
4. Addiction is rife. Ie when they get sick they really get sick.
5. So many conspiracy theorists, so many selfish **** who won’t wear a mask, or social distance, take a test, get a shot.

The land of the free is too free.

And that’s in no particular order.

and Not a Very High Vaccination Numbers.

[stui magpie]

5 recorded cases in Toc in the last week, considering there's no Rats available and no PCR testing close, likely higher. All the Melbourne tourists refusing to wear masks over Christmas clearly did their job.

Walked down the street to get dinner last night, very quiet for this time of year. One place open for takeaway only due to staff shortages, the pub I went to instead running at about 25% capacity, got dinner within 10 minutes of ordering.

Still plenty of campers but seems a number have gone back home and generally people are staying home rather than going out.

[eddiesmith]

Noticed the same in Echuca, dead damn quiet this week compared to the packed houses last week where you couldn’t get in anywhere. Could actually get a parking spot today!!!

But was second behind the Covid capital of regional Victoria, Geelong, yesterday for cases.

[think positive]

God's tech support receives a call on the pandemic...

https://youtu.be/BwaQRTo1Efo

Damned smug Canadians!

That’s funny!!! So is the common sense one!

[What'sinaname]

In Victoria, the death rate (deaths / cases) is now 0.28%.

It was
0.83% on 1 January 2022
1.09% on 1 December 2021
3.96% on 1 July 2021
4.02% on 1 January 2021

When you consider that the vast majority of deaths occur in the elderly and people with comorbidities, this is why we don't need to lock down millions of healthy people.

[Pies4shaw]

Your figures, by the way, continue to be completely spurious - but I can't be bothered any longer trying to explain how incompetent and dangerous your idiocy is.

[What'sinaname]

OK, I'll use the measure the CDC, John Hopkins and BMJ, which is deaths per 100,000 people.

In Australia, the death rate from COVID is 10 people per 100,000 population, or 0.01%.

[Pies4shaw]

That’s just a crude measure of the proportion of the population that has been killed, so far, by the disease. It isn’t a “death rate”.

[Dave The Man]

That’s just a crude measure of the proportion of the population that has been killed, so far, by the disease. It isn’t a “death rate”.

Then should we just stay in Lockdown permanently until the Pandamic is over?

[Dave The Man]

Hearing in NSW 20 People Died and 16 where Double Vaccinated.

Does not sound Great

[stui magpie]

Take that with a grain of salt, I can't see it anywhere in the NSW Gov data.

In a highly vaccinated society, people are going to have differing reactions, similar to a bad flu season like 2017.

Many people will catch it and get no symptoms, others will have varying degrees of symptoms for different lengths of time, some will end up in hospital, a small number (usually ones with underlying conditions) will die.

Driving back from Toc today in the ute with no air con, I went full retro and listened to ABC Radio for a while in the leadup to the cricket. It was a bit crackly but I heard someone reporting on Covid results and heard them say that all of the daily deaths had underlying conditions and no one in ICU was triple vaxxed.

As I understand the modelling, cases are expected to start declining by the end of the month, hospitalisations and deaths will lag 2-4 weeks behind that before they start reducing.