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Any chance of another lockdown or is that off the table now?

I suspect it's off the table, unless we get another variant the causes a massive spike in the death toll.
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^ No chance. You're actually living through a "massive spike in the death toll". Right now, COVID is the leading cause of death in Australia. Carry on as you were.
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@Pies4Shaw, not disputing any of your stats on the previous page, I clearly didn't communicate my meaning well.

You asked what I meant by endemic, I explained and used flu as an example.

I wasn't intending to insinuate that the current Covid situation is as mild as a flu, merely that that is the scenario where we are heading to.

Eddie's reference to Pneumonia is not without merit, despite your arguments, as Covid also statistically kills a disproportionate number of elderly people despite the vast majority of infections being 20-40 year olds.

I remain positive, cases in hospital continue to go down, we're well past the worst of this outbreak, so everyone stay calm and carry on.
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Pies4shaw wrote:^ No chance. You're actually living through a "massive spike in the death toll". Right now, COVID is the leading cause of death in Australia. Carry on as you were.
Do you think it would have been better if we had maintained the lockdowns?
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#26 wrote:Any chance of another lockdown or is that off the table now?

I suspect it's off the table, unless we get another variant the causes a massive spike in the death toll.
I say Pretty Much of the Table it would only be Last Resort and that be something Catastrophic to Happen. Be link a Strain that does not work with Vaccines

Seen during late last year and early this year that Restrictions keep coming off with Bigger Numbers instead of the last 2 years
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Scored some Rapid Tests today. Called into the Pharmacy to put on Tatts and they had tests there. $70 for 5. Ouch.

When I said I'd buy some, girl asked me if I knew anyone with a pension card as they're free. So went home, got mum's card and went back and got them.

Don't have a need for them but handy to have sitting there with the nearly full box of surgical masks I bought in 2020.
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Sorry for the delay - I just noticed I posted this in the Sports Bar!

Reported today in Victoria:

Hospital: 652
ICU: 73
Ventilated: 28
Deaths: 6

and in NSW:

- 2,321 hospitalisations
- 147 people in ICU
- 28 deaths
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On 5 January 2022,
What'sinaname wrote:Globally, COVID deaths have been consistently declining since December 7, even while cases in that time have trebled.
This amply demonstrates the timing issue in assessing COVID data.

It was true enough when it was written. Delta reached a maximum impact world-wide of 10,331 deaths per day (on a 7-day rolling average) on 25 August 2021. That declined to 6,685 per day (on a 7-day rolling average) by late October 2021. The daily numbers of deaths then more or less plateaued until around 12 December (no dramatic variations up or down over that 6 or 7 week peiod).

What was being measured on 5 January 2022, of course, was the waning of Delta. Today, though, the graph shows the 7-day rolling average back up to the peak of the Delta numbers of deaths world-wide and, although one never knows if one has reached the peak until it's passed, it does look like the rate of daily deaths world-wide is continuing to increase steadily (about 120 additional deaths per day, globally - that probably doesn't sound much stated like that but it has meant an additional 4,200 deaths per week now, as compared to 5 January). Around the globe, new daily cases are dropping (or not being reported, as the case may be), so we might be near the peak of deaths around the globe - time will tell. What we do know, now, is (as was frankly always going to be the case) that Omicron is wreaking as much havoc, globally, as Delta did because of its much greater transmissibility.
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Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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^ Here’s a hint - the 2,000+ deaths per day from Omicron in the US at the moment may not be the “asymptomatic” or “mild” cases that Tony has in mind. They’ve had about 75,000 deaths there since the start of 2022.
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Reported in Victoria today:

Hospital: 638
ICU: 72
Ventilated: 26
Deaths: 7

and in NSW:

- 2,099 hospitalisations
- 137 people in ICU
- 14 deaths
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Jezza wrote:^ The authoritarianism in Austria is terrifying.
Except for those who like structure. :lol:
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