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I have it on good authority Sidey was seen getting a coffee this morning, smiling away at the barista like he'd just won a gold medal! Senior player and all!
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I still maintain that with all the wasted scoring shots, that it’s only our lack of efficiency that cost us the last two games despite late game fade-outs. That Geelong game was a hammering in all areas except the scoreboard. I look at that as a nine goal win gone begging which at the very least means we are able to mix it with the best of them. Yesterday was an ordinary game but we did enough to win by 5 goals but once again, poor kicking. You’re not looking at a bottom team by those metrics. Plenty to be happy about.
It was confusing last night.
The last thing I would have been doing would be kicking long into our 50, with Hurn, Barrass and McGovern there.
But we continued to do it.
So, was it the players following coaching instructions or the players not following coaches instructions.
Very odd.
The last thing I would have been doing would be kicking long into our 50, with Hurn, Barrass and McGovern there.
But we continued to do it.
So, was it the players following coaching instructions or the players not following coaches instructions.
Very odd.
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The criticism of Sidey after the game is unwarranted. If you want to criticize, criticize the way we celebrate after kicking a goal. We go over the top whenever we kick a goal. Watch the way WCE celebrate when they kick a goal. They’re relatively restrained because they know they have a job to do until the final siren sounds. With us I think under a new coach it’s about the playing group proving to the coach that they have the capacity to win games of football. Do they go out with the expectation that they are going to win, or do they go out there with the expectation that they can win? There’s a subtle difference between the two. That’s what we have to sort out as a team and until we do we’re going to have a very up and down season. Our last quarters of football in our last 3 games have been shocking. We know we have the legs to run out games. It’s completely uncharacteristic of what we’re capable of doing but it’s in keeping with a team under a new coach that is finding it’s feet.
Ok, what to do next week against Brisbane? Personally I wouldn’t change much. What good does it do substituting Cox for Cameron? Wilson showed a bit yesterday. It’s his first game as a forward. Surely we need to give him some slack. He, Kreuger and Mihocek have the potential to make up a pretty potent forward line. We lose Elliot but we can cover his loss by playing Josh Daicos up forward and moving WHE to the wing. And there’s McCreery to come back.
Our back line is a concern. I’d prefer playing Crisp as a permanent half back, Dean or Roughead at FB and Moore at CHB and Pendles back where he belongs in the centre of the ground. Until we have our preferred defensive set up we’re just going to be leaking goals every week.
Midfield is another concern. Lipinski was never going to be a panacea. He struggled to get a game with the Western Bulldogs. Worse, Lipinski has pushed MaCrae out of the side. We need to start playing guys like Poulter and MaCrae. I don’t think we’re far away from being a good side. We’re definitely not bottom six. We’re definitely not top six either. At the moment we’re a midfield side like a lot of other teams, having it’s ups and downs.
Ok, what to do next week against Brisbane? Personally I wouldn’t change much. What good does it do substituting Cox for Cameron? Wilson showed a bit yesterday. It’s his first game as a forward. Surely we need to give him some slack. He, Kreuger and Mihocek have the potential to make up a pretty potent forward line. We lose Elliot but we can cover his loss by playing Josh Daicos up forward and moving WHE to the wing. And there’s McCreery to come back.
Our back line is a concern. I’d prefer playing Crisp as a permanent half back, Dean or Roughead at FB and Moore at CHB and Pendles back where he belongs in the centre of the ground. Until we have our preferred defensive set up we’re just going to be leaking goals every week.
Midfield is another concern. Lipinski was never going to be a panacea. He struggled to get a game with the Western Bulldogs. Worse, Lipinski has pushed MaCrae out of the side. We need to start playing guys like Poulter and MaCrae. I don’t think we’re far away from being a good side. We’re definitely not bottom six. We’re definitely not top six either. At the moment we’re a midfield side like a lot of other teams, having it’s ups and downs.
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He's been smiling since 1991, that's how he rolls. Has been far from our worst performer.Ronnie McKeowns boots wrote:I have it on good authority Sidey was seen getting a coffee this morning, smiling away at the barista like he'd just won a gold medal! Senior player and all!
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Well, that wasn't good. A few notes on various players:
Sidebottom: Look, he's been really good for us for a long time, but he fell off last year and he needs to be told that this is his last year. He's 2010 Tarkyn Lockyer.
Josh Daicos: Don't really understand why everyone is so in love with him. He's pretty average, not nearly as damaging with the ball as he should be.
Nick Daicos: Yeah, he's a gun. If he has anything like a normal development curve, he'll win Brownlows (plural). Can't remember the last time we had a guy this good this young.
Tom Wilson: Not a great game, but I think worth persisting with.
Callum Brown: Starting to think he's this generations Kyle Martin. Too good for the reserves, but can't play at senior level. Still, looks better as an in and under mid than a half forward.
Darcy Cameron: I know everyone's down on him, but his worst games (which this was) are roughly on par with Cox's average games, so he has to stay.
Darcy Moore: A good player, but he gives away one completely unnecessary free kick away right in front of goal every single game.
Will Hoskin-Elliott: Has had his moments with us, but this needs to be his last season.
Jack Madgen: When's Roughead coming back?
Oliver Henry: Needs to be dropped and work on his game in the VFL. He's good when he has a direct shot at goal, but contributes literally nothing else.
Sidebottom: Look, he's been really good for us for a long time, but he fell off last year and he needs to be told that this is his last year. He's 2010 Tarkyn Lockyer.
Josh Daicos: Don't really understand why everyone is so in love with him. He's pretty average, not nearly as damaging with the ball as he should be.
Nick Daicos: Yeah, he's a gun. If he has anything like a normal development curve, he'll win Brownlows (plural). Can't remember the last time we had a guy this good this young.
Tom Wilson: Not a great game, but I think worth persisting with.
Callum Brown: Starting to think he's this generations Kyle Martin. Too good for the reserves, but can't play at senior level. Still, looks better as an in and under mid than a half forward.
Darcy Cameron: I know everyone's down on him, but his worst games (which this was) are roughly on par with Cox's average games, so he has to stay.
Darcy Moore: A good player, but he gives away one completely unnecessary free kick away right in front of goal every single game.
Will Hoskin-Elliott: Has had his moments with us, but this needs to be his last season.
Jack Madgen: When's Roughead coming back?
Oliver Henry: Needs to be dropped and work on his game in the VFL. He's good when he has a direct shot at goal, but contributes literally nothing else.
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Lipinski is fine. He was ok yesterday and better than that in previous weeks. I don't think anyone thought he was going to be a star here and he won't be, but he's perfectly serviceable.Johnno75 wrote:I’d give Lipinski a bit of time before we judge. Remember crisp before he came to Collingwood. Agree on McCrae and Poulter playing.
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