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Imagine having that on your conscience. Probably a greater punishment than any jail time he could have served.
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Maybe maybe not. It should. But some people are utter scum and still play the victim.

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So I've read the article, it doesn't say that he won't face jail time, just that he might not, that decision hasn't been made.

There's no indication that he was speeding or under the influence, he just lost concentration and didn't see the pedestrian light go red. Anyone who says they haven't been not concentrating while driving is lying.

He stopped at the scene, tried to render assistance and called 000 and has expressed sincere remorse. Hardly comes across as someone evil, I personally wouldn't object to a community corrections order rather than a custodial sentence, locking him up won't bring the kid back.
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My view is simple.

Grace Tame is a victim/survivor of sexual assault. I'll value her opinion on that topic just like I'd value the opinion of an athlete on the sport they competed in, an actor on acting or a musician on music.

When they stray outside their wheelhouse and intellect I lose interest.
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stui magpie wrote:So I've read the article, it doesn't say that he won't face jail time, just that he might not, that decision hasn't been made.

There's no indication that he was speeding or under the influence, he just lost concentration and didn't see the pedestrian light go red. Anyone who says they haven't been not concentrating while driving is lying.

He stopped at the scene, tried to render assistance and called 000 and has expressed sincere remorse. Hardly comes across as someone evil, I personally wouldn't object to a community corrections order rather than a custodial sentence, locking him up won't bring the kid back.
To hit someone already in the crossing and the other people had time to hear him coming and pull back suggests it wasn’t a case of just missing the light.

Distracted makes me assume mobile phone usage most likely to blame.

Yes we all do it, but fact is if I ran a red light and killed someone because I was distracted by a phone, I’d be expecting jail time.

But it seems typical of Victoria’s justice system finding some excuse to let people off for killing someone. If it’s as simple as pleading guilty and acting remorseful, anyone can do that. Guess it’d free up the prison system pretty quickly!
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not often i agree with you but here, 110%
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If he was on his phone then I'd agree, but there's no evidence of that. My assumption was he was tired, on the way home from work and lost concentration at the wrong time.
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OK, Wow. :shock:

Apart from the other stuff is there a bit of politics in this? They're siding with Russia and have problems with you sheltering a Ukranian?
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Yeah, I’m not sure if that’s a factor, though the possibility did cross my mind. I think they watch Russian news, so they’ve probably been exposed to a lot of propaganda. But given Lola’s mother is Ukrainian herself and her own city is being bombed to smithereens, I’d find it pretty astonishing if she’s taking Putin’s side in this. (And yes, it goes to show the quality of our relationship that I have no idea what their stance is on it; until yesterday, we hadn't talked since before the war began.)

I think they’re just deeply paranoid and miserable people, honestly.
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OK, so you won't be inviting them to come over and stay for a holiday here any time soon. :P :wink:
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Oh, they currently live five minutes’ drive from us! Forgot to mention that. :roll:
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That belongs in the WTF thread.
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