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Do you get frequent pay rises?

Yes, annually reviewed.
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Yes, if I initiate negotiations.
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29%
What's a pay rise?
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stui magpie wrote:
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David wrote:Five years in the same job and my pay hasn't gone up by a cent. Working for a nonprofit in the arts is definitely a fast-track to wealth!
That sucks. My pay has increased over 20% in the same period.
Mine has actually gone down, but that's because I chose to go for more operational roles and reduce my hours where I could. My current role is back in snr management but as it's a smaller place there's also operational elements. I'm earning basically the same as i got in my last role but that was full time and I'm now working a 30hr 4 day week . The hourly rate is close to what I was on 5 years ago but with far less pressure.

Works for me.
yep stop and enjoy the roses!

Must be hard David, they still should have to pay a living wage. How do you manage with rent etc you don’t live in a cheap area either

Meanwhile IT is booming, my eldest just got a $7;500 bonus!
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David, if that's the case, one thing you can negotiate to be privy to or to get more involved in is revenues/expenditures/budgeting. This is not only good for your CV and very likely your role as it relates to content management and planning (plus, seeing the numbers gives creative people all kinds of new ideas), but the business needs to justify its expenditures.

Remember, people taking a pay cut for the good of the whole are the equivalent of investors or creditors, depending on which way you look at it. The former are always privy to financials, while the latter eventually gain legal access when they're not being paid.

Moreover, if you take the investor angle, you could use that to be granted shares under an employee share scheme:

https://www.ato.gov.au/general/employee-share-schemes/

Now, you might think all that admin isn't worth it, but that depends how far forward you're planning, and how serious you are about the success of the organisation. Everything from budgeting to government grants comes into this, and you may see many things that others are missing, even if they're honest and well-meaning.

And sometimes, even if it doesn't mean much more money, taking on these things and learning them positions you to make more when the chance arises. There are career progression opportunities in this that you won't think of until you start dabbling in that side of things.

To give you but one example, I trim budgets all the time in my areas of expertise because people are forever getting locked into dodgy IT expenditures when there is a cheaper and very often a cheaper and superior option. Let me give you an extremely simple example: a lot of companies pay for Adobe CC subscriptions when their employees can't for the life of them do anything more than what a free or in-built tool that is highly reputable and safe can do. Now multiply that solution after solution, expense after expense across a company.

Or take another example. When you have access to the data, you can spot all kinds of things about subscriptions and user behaviour in regard to subscriptions that lead to less revenue, and can then come up with all kinds of ways of optimising revenue. Ditto for the advertising that gets you the subscriptions, etc.

It's not that other people are bad, it's that in a small company people are not surrounded by others who know more than them, so they aren't exposed to the latest ideas and techniques in their job area, thereby inadvertently underperforming.
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^

Pretty sure ESS don't apply in NFP's. There's no shares and no shareholders.
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Fairly sure he's editor of a Film Journal, I'd treat it like an internship, get involved in as much as possible and learn as much as possible to prepare for the next step.
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^If there's no other way of formally deferring value in the organisation, then that makes access to data even more important. I'd be fashioning my work as proper project management, which again might seem a pain for someone creative, but it's probably the best way to store value. That or introduce some in-demand specialist technical element.

David, fill us in on the legal structure and roughly how it operates.
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"Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange
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Good stuff, good luck with it all.

2 points.

1. Your contract would be a common law contract underpinned by a Modern Award. All your terms and conditions of employment would be in that Award including the minimum salary.

2. The Board basically runs the place. They are responsible for the overall governance, they make the decisions about strategic direction, hire the boss and ensure that the place runs according to plan.
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30+ years in one job. :shock:

I can't relate to that in any way, that must have been a serious passion project.
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Paul Pogba says he wants to prove Manchester United wrong after claiming their reported £300,000-a-week offer to keep him was “nothing”. The 29-year-old France midfielder is expected to return to Juventus when his United contract expires at the end of this month.
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stui magpie wrote:30+ years in one job. :shock:

I can't relate to that in any way, that must have been a serious passion project.
Really, hubby worked at bradmill for I think 32 could be 34 years and we even got the job of tearing the machinery down when they closed, his dad did 49 years and got retrenched, I know heaps of people who were still at Holden when the doors closed and it’s been 40 years since I was there, in fact a couple still work at what’s left of Holden. My dad started work at Union carbide when we got here in 1970, and was there til he retired.
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Yeah, back in the old days people used to stay at one place for a lifetime, particularly in blue collar manufacturing jobs.

I did 20+ years at telecom/Telstra but had 10 different roles in that time and multiple workplaces. Going to the same place to do the same job every day for 30 years.................................
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They worked their way up, hubby was an apprentice ended up maintenance manager for the whole joint. So did all if the apprentices I worked with. My dad was a fitter in the airforce working on air ships and ship motors, went to uni at night and got an engineering degree, he ended up running the whole show. We were on a paddle steamer in Echuca and it broke down, dad fixed it for them! He was a clever bugger if not very astute in other ways!
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They worked their way up, hubby was an apprentice ended up maintenance manager for the whole joint. So did all if the apprentices I worked with. My dad was a fitter in the airforce working on air ships and ship motors, went to uni at night and got an engineering degree, he ended up running the whole show. We were on a paddle steamer in Echuca and it broke down, dad fixed it for them! He was a clever bugger if not very astute in other ways!
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