Did we POACH crisp? Mayne? Greenwood? Don’t think soRonnie McKeowns boots wrote:^
GWS happy for Adams to go as was Geelong ( varcoe).
So did we also poach Ball Jolly Brown & Malthouse to win 2010?
Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements
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Presti35
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Players of interest for me:
Tim Taranto (GWS, Gun Midfielder)
Ben McKay (North, Full Back)
Harry Himmelberg (GWS, Full Forward (and now back))
Jacob Hopper (GWS, Inside Mid)
Todd Marshall (Port, Full Forward)
Griffin Logue (Freo, Key Defender)
Izak Rankine (GCS, Small Forward)
Ed Richards (Dogs, Small Defender) Yeah, I know.
Cameron Zurhaar (North, Medium Forward)
Fischer McAsey (Adelaide, Key Defender) Injury concerns.
Ian "Bobby" Hill (GWS, Small Forward)
Darcy Fogarty (Adelaide, Full Forward)
Nick Larkey (North, Full Forward)
Riley O'Brien (Adelaide, Ruck) Only if we think we still need a ruck if Grundy goes.
If the rumors of delisting come true:
Alex Witherden (WCE, Medium Defender)
Hear me out:
Aaron Francis (Essendon, Key Forward/Back).
Isn't enjoying it at Essendon. Is from S.A. and could be wanting to go home, but I think the change of clubs is def on the cards. He is out of contract this year. He can mark, he can jump high, is still young, is able to play forward (and kick a goal), is able to play in defence, and I think with Howe now 32, is a good replacement for that role. (Dont get me wrong, he wont be as good as Howe, but he can come in to take on that role. Essendon have not used him correctly).
Michael Hurley (Essendon, Key Defender).
Just kidding.
These names have come up in recent trade talks:
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Is he really the next Buddy?)
Jaidyn Stephenson (I'd need some convincing, but if the 2018 version came back, then sure. Imagine he and Ginnivan together)
Lance Franklin (better option than McStay iyam)
Tom Mitchell (I think this is the wrong path)
Paddy Ryder (injuries have caught up with him now)
Paddy Dow (Next Will Brodie? Prob not)
Rory Lobb (Maybe, not first option though)
Dan McStay (Only because he's a free agent)
Sam Weideman (Starting to think he doesnt have it)
We have a lot to work with, and a lot to play out RE: De Goey/compo pick.
But if we lose JDG and Grundy, we must bring guns back in return, via draft or trade. The Cameron/Cox combo isnt going to work forever and JDG is a hard to replace tallant.
Tim Taranto (GWS, Gun Midfielder)
Ben McKay (North, Full Back)
Harry Himmelberg (GWS, Full Forward (and now back))
Jacob Hopper (GWS, Inside Mid)
Todd Marshall (Port, Full Forward)
Griffin Logue (Freo, Key Defender)
Izak Rankine (GCS, Small Forward)
Ed Richards (Dogs, Small Defender) Yeah, I know.
Cameron Zurhaar (North, Medium Forward)
Fischer McAsey (Adelaide, Key Defender) Injury concerns.
Ian "Bobby" Hill (GWS, Small Forward)
Darcy Fogarty (Adelaide, Full Forward)
Nick Larkey (North, Full Forward)
Riley O'Brien (Adelaide, Ruck) Only if we think we still need a ruck if Grundy goes.
If the rumors of delisting come true:
Alex Witherden (WCE, Medium Defender)
Hear me out:
Aaron Francis (Essendon, Key Forward/Back).
Isn't enjoying it at Essendon. Is from S.A. and could be wanting to go home, but I think the change of clubs is def on the cards. He is out of contract this year. He can mark, he can jump high, is still young, is able to play forward (and kick a goal), is able to play in defence, and I think with Howe now 32, is a good replacement for that role. (Dont get me wrong, he wont be as good as Howe, but he can come in to take on that role. Essendon have not used him correctly).
Michael Hurley (Essendon, Key Defender).
Just kidding.
These names have come up in recent trade talks:
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Is he really the next Buddy?)
Jaidyn Stephenson (I'd need some convincing, but if the 2018 version came back, then sure. Imagine he and Ginnivan together)
Lance Franklin (better option than McStay iyam)
Tom Mitchell (I think this is the wrong path)
Paddy Ryder (injuries have caught up with him now)
Paddy Dow (Next Will Brodie? Prob not)
Rory Lobb (Maybe, not first option though)
Dan McStay (Only because he's a free agent)
Sam Weideman (Starting to think he doesnt have it)
We have a lot to work with, and a lot to play out RE: De Goey/compo pick.
But if we lose JDG and Grundy, we must bring guns back in return, via draft or trade. The Cameron/Cox combo isnt going to work forever and JDG is a hard to replace tallant.
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The Black and White Lion
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Sydney Stack could be electric and offers something quite a bit different to our group.
Tom Highmore was solid last year and is taller than most of our defenders. Strong body and good mark overhead. Thought the saints were missing a trick not playing him so much this year
Ed Allen kicked our last goal of the year at the 58minute mark
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With one or both of Grundy and DeGoey highly unlikely to be there next season we need to bring in the right replacements.
Taranto and Bruhn have been linked - Taranto straight swap for Brodie. See if we can get Bruhn via draft picks. Not interested in Bradley Hill, we already have Ginnivan and McCreery who are both better than him.
If we lose DeGoey then I'd be inclined to look at Rhys Matheson from Lions. He is gettable and a clearance bull.
McStay is coming so that will help out Checkers in the forward line. We will continue to develop Begg as the back up ruck to Cameron.
Taranto and Bruhn have been linked - Taranto straight swap for Brodie. See if we can get Bruhn via draft picks. Not interested in Bradley Hill, we already have Ginnivan and McCreery who are both better than him.
If we lose DeGoey then I'd be inclined to look at Rhys Matheson from Lions. He is gettable and a clearance bull.
McStay is coming so that will help out Checkers in the forward line. We will continue to develop Begg as the back up ruck to Cameron.
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Pep
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^^^
If JDG and Grundy do leave/get traded, then we need to come out with what the bummers got in the 2020 when they lost Saad and Daniher, 2 top 10 picks at least... to either on-trade for ready made players/replacements, or to draft another gun mid and best KPP prospect.
What I think we need is Full back (could be McStay) and eventual Howe replacement (maybe Dean), and gun mid. So maybe our defence is already sorted?
I think our forward line looks better with Kruger, Henry and Johnson in the line up, they look to be pretty dynamic and have an eye for goal.
We don't know how this trade season plays out, but I think the future is bright either way.
If JDG and Grundy do leave/get traded, then we need to come out with what the bummers got in the 2020 when they lost Saad and Daniher, 2 top 10 picks at least... to either on-trade for ready made players/replacements, or to draft another gun mid and best KPP prospect.
What I think we need is Full back (could be McStay) and eventual Howe replacement (maybe Dean), and gun mid. So maybe our defence is already sorted?
I think our forward line looks better with Kruger, Henry and Johnson in the line up, they look to be pretty dynamic and have an eye for goal.
We don't know how this trade season plays out, but I think the future is bright either way.
Unfortunately, we stand to get nothing for DeGoey if he leaves and we recruit McStay.Pep wrote:^^^
If JDG and Grundy do leave/get traded, then we need to come out with what the bummers got in the 2020 when they lost Saad and Daniher, 2 top 10 picks at least... to either on-trade for ready made players/replacements, or to draft another gun mid and best KPP prospect.
What I think we need is Full back (could be McStay) and eventual Howe replacement (maybe Dean), and gun mid. So maybe our defence is already sorted?
I think our forward line looks better with Kruger, Henry and Johnson in the line up, they look to be pretty dynamic and have an eye for goal.
We don't know how this trade season plays out, but I think the future is bright either way.
Collingwood Domination. Envy of the Nation!
Unless Brisbane agrees to trade McStay rather than accept their compo pick.Boot wrote:^
Their incentive to trade is their need for a ridiculous amount of points required to secure TWO very promising F / S prospects (Ashcroft and Fletcher)
We may yet offer our first two (of three) third rounders for McStay and as long as that would exceed the points gained for the McStay compo pick, then it’s in Lions best interest to trade for more points than take the compo pick. It all depends on what the AFL come up with for the McStay compo pick (best guess is likely a late second rounder based on contract and Lions ladder finish) You would certainly prefer to give up a couple early third rounders if it meant you received one DeGoey compo pick in the mid-teens. This trade period will be a can of worms. Let’s hope we’re on the winning end.
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Boogie Knights
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It could happen but the Cameron scenario was pretty unique in that both clubs wanted him so badly, they were both prepared to pay a premium for his signature. Ultimately, the cats sold the farm to acquire Cameron as a trade and in return GWS would have pulled the matching bid. At least it stuffed up the Cats drafting strategy for a couple years. The best chance for a club to get a return on an upcoming free agent, is to entertain offers on that player one year before free agency kicks in. In that situation, at least the parent club has an amount of control regarding a fair outcome ( ie Dangerfield ) It would also need the player to tell the club, no matter what you do, I don’t plan on being here in 12 months time.Boogie Knights wrote:Isn't deGoey a restricted free agent? We could 'threaten' to match an offer to force a trade... it's worked for a few other teams... GWS/Cameron/Geelong...
You'd be able to get something pretty reasonable back I'd imagine - look at a young player and 1st pick...
My take is, whatever Collingwood offer DeGoey ( and that’s assuming they want him ) it still wouldn’t take much for a rival club to beat it. If DeGoey decides to stay for less, then he will earn a few credits along the way.
The thing with free agency is that this is designed to be the players best opportunity for them to maximise their earning capacity. As “ unfair “ as it might sound, free agency isn’t about clubs being the winner when a player moves on, it’s about the player being afforded an opportunity to set himself up financially for the latter part of his career and life after footy.
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