Cripps wins appeal - no suspension

[Pebbles Rocks]

All the conspiracy theorists are ridiculous. "If Cripps were a Collingwood player he would've got 3 weeks. The AFL wanted Cripps to play...."Blah blah blah.
Cripps got off on technicalities. The Tribunal stuffed it. Blame them! Cripps was plainly guilty, but the Tribunal still had to follow proper procedures. According to the appeals board it didn't. End of story.

Cripps is now free to play this week. Unfortunately Ah Chee isn't. But no one cares about him.

The afl still has the opportunity to overrule if they think the outcome was wrong. eg Toby Greene

[David]

[Piethagoras' Theorem]

Dunno, I was pretty happy beating them with Cripps playing

[ANNODAM]

There are 17 clubs supporters that disagree with the decision & only 1 club which are happy.
The scum doing what they do best using every cheating opportunity to get over the line.


Are we really that shocked?

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

AFL please appeal the appeal Cripps should not be able to play

[What'sinaname]

There are 17 clubs supporters that disagree with the decision & only 1 club which are happy.
The scum doing what they do best using every cheating opportunity to get over the line.


Are we really that shocked?

Actually, it's more like

Supporters of 3 clubs disagree (Melb, Coll and Bulldogs)
Supporters of 1 club agree

And supporters of 18 clubs are confused

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

The systems corrupt

[Piesnchess]

What it does do is set a precedent. You can now take someone out.

No you cant and no it doesn't. The precedent will remain "if you elect to bump and concuss you will be sanctioned". What it means is if the AFL screw up their prosecution, you can get off on incorrect legal process.

I personally still don't understand why our tribunal system has to be so "legal", but its akin to catching a murderer, but failing to read them their rights properly, or losing the key piece of evidence, or coercing a confession out of them etc. Everyone knows they did it, but the legal process wasn't correctly applied and therefore there is a risk they walk.

Nope, as long as you can rig the system, and afford a team of Legal eagles and QCs, which the Bluescum can, you are in the box seat too get off. It sets a dangerous precedent, now, head high tackes are fine, you got a legal team, you get off. Only a matter of time, before a player gets serious brain damage, time will tell.

[Piesnchess]

There are 17 clubs supporters that disagree with the decision & only 1 club which are happy.
The scum doing what they do best using every cheating opportunity to get over the line.


Are we really that shocked?

Yep, the Underbelly crew were all Bluescum fans, not to mention old dodgy Pratt, I can see brown paper bags , stuffed with cash, being left around for League Officials, the good old Caaaaarlton corruption way. Its all they know.

[Piesnchess]

It's irrelevant whether its Cripps or not.

It confirms that the AFL is:-
- NOT serious about head high tackles
- NOT serious about concussion
- NOT serious about player welfare
- NOT serious to ensure duty of care

Arrogance at it's peak.

Way to overreact.

It says the AFL acknowledges that in a contact sport, there will be the inevitable head clash, and that in a genuine contest, a player can't / shouldn't be held accountable for such contact.

The way some of you are behaving, you'd want a player suspended if they kneed an opponent in the head, concussing them, whilst taking mark of the year.

Get real, if it was a Pies player, hed get three wks, no questions asked, do you forget cloke and rocca, and a host of others. The League wants Bluescum in the finals, so nudge nudge, wink, wink say no more, just like when Hall knocked out staker, and played, the League wanted him off to gift the swans a flag. This now gives green light, to head high tackes, heaven help poor Jack Ginnavin now, id say. Blues brought in the silks and QCs, the Underbelly crew Lawyers, they are most corrupt cheating club in the comp. Your far too naive mate, if it was one of our guys, hed be crucified just ask Maynerd.

[swoop42]

Honestly, when did the AFL process to decide the guilt or innocence of a football player suddenly become a court of law instead of just an internal mechanism setup to review an incident out on the field of play?

Anyone with any feel for the game knows full well that Cripps, with his side trailing 38 to 2, took an opportunity to assert himself physically on an opponent in an effort to energize his teammates. Unfortunately for him and Ah Chee he elected to bump, yes it was a bump Mr Kellam, that bump went high and Ah Chee was concussed.

The match review officer did his job in laying the initial charge and the original tribunal panel were smart enough to see through all the BS from the defence.

Yet here we are, Cripps gets off and we have people talking of procedural fairness, a denial of natural justice and a "jury" not being directed correctly.

I tell you what is a denial of natural justice.

That Cripps is free to play this week when his victim Ah Chee isn't (and wouldn't be allowed to even if he felt fine!) while the inclusion of Cripps aids Carlton with any victory for them costing another team the opportunity to play finals or in our case possibly a top 4 finish.

I'm sorry but this decision potentially impacts the integrity of the whole competition.

[think positive]

not sorry, it 100% does, and people think there are no conspricies in the AFL!

its all about the dollars, and our game in 2 weeks sealed it

[Piesnchess]

^ Spot on T P, the League wants a massive crowd in two weeks, and for the Bluebastard to be in the Finals, hence this nudge, nudge, wink , wink say no more ruling, it stinks like a three day old fish left in the fridge. Its all about the money, the cash flow, bums on seats. I had a thought, if it had not been for our wonderful season, crowd numbers at matches would be absolute shit, we bumped it up, week after week, crowds at games are well down, but not at ours, we saved the pricks at League HQ. Yeh, all b out the dollars, and to hell with the ethics and justice, an poor Ah Chee, also, the forgotten victim of the Golden Child.

[Woods Of Ypres]

I'm afraid you are right PnC, they want Carlton in the finals.
the whole thing is as crook as a dog's hind leg

[David]