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eddiesmith wrote:If sports are limited to sponsors that suit the woke brigade then there’ll be **** all money available so hopefully all these enlightened players are willing to take massive pay cuts or see their sport die just to feel good about themselves.
I’m willing to bet you that 1) professional netball will continue to be able to find sponsors that aren’t subject to player boycotts and 2) the sport will not die. I suspect this may be less of a general anti-mining crusade but more of a reflection that Hancock are particularly bad apples in terms of their environmental disregard and political lobbying. But even if there aren’t going to be any mining sponsorships going forward, they’ll cope.

The reality is that most organisations are at least somewhat choosy about who they enter into sponsorship arrangements with. Part of that’s about image, part is about "values", part is about the kind of partnerships you’re choosing to prioritise (say, wanting to associate with certain industries). Case in point: I edit an online film publication; we could pull in more money by filling the website with automated spam weight-loss ads, but it would look like shit and ultimately turn away the audience we want to build, so it’s in our long-term interest not to. But that’s primarily a business decision; I have nothing but respect for people who sacrifice profit for principle without getting anything in return. It’s dispiriting that some can’t appreciate that.
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Best stop supporting the Collingwood Football Club, look at OUR sponsors;

EMIRATES - Burn over 5 billion litres of aviation fuel a year & have a deplorable history of the way they treat women in the workplace.

KFC - Well this muck needs no explanation. Disgusting, fat dripping heart attack material. Overpriced and aiding the ever increasing obesity problem around the country.

NIKE - Famous for their sweatshops and abuse of cheap labour. Who can forget the image of a 12yo boy sewing soccer balls together?

Latrobe finance - charging people exorbitant rates to make massive profits.

Carlton Draught - Alcohol, the most destructive drug on the planet.

Let's reach out to Unicorns & Rainbows Inc... or maybe the Leprechaun, the one that can lead us to the poison gold.


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You're halfway there, Skids! ;)

They say "no ethical consumption under capitalism", but there are certainly better and worse options. Consistency is overrated, but it wouldn't hurt for us to scrutinise some of these partnerships more closely and see if we can, well, "do better".
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eddiesmith wrote:If sports are limited to sponsors that suit the woke brigade then there’ll be **** all money available so hopefully all these enlightened players are willing to take massive pay cuts or see their sport die just to feel good about themselves.
exactly right!
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maybe you could sponsor em!
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Rinehart got $15m+ worth of positive publicity without spending a dime.

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Jacinta Nampijinpa Price sums it up nicely.
You make your bed, you lie in it…
Unless you’ve got a cool few million in your back pocket to support your sporting code, your woke sense of self importance should be your private opinion and your private opinion only.
Sporting codes, corporates and society in general need to grow a spine and stop pandering to self righteous individuals on the basis saying ‘No’ to their selfish demands just might attract accusations of racism or bigotry.
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While you allow bullies to bully it’s the vulnerable who ultimately lose out in the end. My niece is an up and coming Australian Aboriginal netball player and now those she looks up to have made her future that much harder.
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David wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:If sports are limited to sponsors that suit the woke brigade then there’ll be **** all money available so hopefully all these enlightened players are willing to take massive pay cuts or see their sport die just to feel good about themselves.
I’m willing to bet you that 1) professional netball will continue to be able to find sponsors that aren’t subject to player boycotts and 2) the sport will not die. I suspect this may be less of a general anti-mining crusade but more of a reflection that Hancock are particularly bad apples in terms of their environmental disregard and political lobbying. But even if there aren’t going to be any mining sponsorships going forward, they’ll cope.

The reality is that most organisations are at least somewhat choosy about who they enter into sponsorship arrangements with. Part of that’s about image, part is about "values", part is about the kind of partnerships you’re choosing to prioritise (say, wanting to associate with certain industries). Case in point: I edit an online film publication; we could pull in more money by filling the website with automated spam weight-loss ads, but it would look like shit and ultimately turn away the audience we want to build, so it’s in our long-term interest not to. But that’s primarily a business decision; I have nothing but respect for people who sacrifice profit for principle without getting anything in return. It’s dispiriting that some can’t appreciate that.
Given they were $7 million in the red, no I don’t think there is a plethora of sponsors lining up. Besides, as Skids pointed out below this post there will be a reason to attack pretty much every major company by someone with an agenda.

I doubt there is a company in existence who doesn’t employ someone who said something bad once in their lifetime…
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double yep!
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What'sinaname wrote:Rinehart got $15m+ worth of positive publicity without spending a dime.

That's one clever lady.
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Not sure what makes it positive publicity … the people who like Rinehart and share her politics will applaud her; the people who despise her will feel vindicated. And the people who aren’t into culture wars will probably not give a toss about her or this story either way.
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