Just flicked on the today show while I have coffee and caught some Qld cop talking about the crash and youth crime, oh my god I wanted to stand and applaud.
Lock em up! Yes!
Get theagencies who look after young kids to do their jobs, intervene at 3-4 so the parents can’t **** em up, he’s talking repeat offender patents who in his world could not look after a brick!
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Easy to talk tough, but is he actually proposing anything tangible in terms of policy? Child protection work is pretty damn hard as it is, and the decision to take children away and place them in state care (for instance) is one with serious and far-reaching consequences. The challenge is to be able to provide adequate and situationally appropriate support for parents and children alike, and there's a lot of work that needs to go on behind the scenes for that to be effective.
Here are some suggestions that could help address these problems:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-04/ ... /101928856
Otherwise, the idea of punishing parents for children's crimes is idiotic, and anyone who suggests that as a solution isn't worth paying attention to on this topic.
Here are some suggestions that could help address these problems:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-04/ ... /101928856
Otherwise, the idea of punishing parents for children's crimes is idiotic, and anyone who suggests that as a solution isn't worth paying attention to on this topic.
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You do realise that there are parents who train and/or force their children to commit crimes don't you? Punishing them is idiotic you say?
Honestly, people need to get out and amongst these situations that are going on. The ignorance of some commentators/politicians and the general public is astounding.
Honestly, people need to get out and amongst these situations that are going on. The ignorance of some commentators/politicians and the general public is astounding.
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God FMD Centrelink are hard to deal with.
I just wanted to report that I had access to my super now and had taken out a lump sum, which I assume would impact my current payments.
Can't report income using the App as you need to list an employer. I'm not employed, so bit the bullet and called up. 1 hr, 20 minutes in total, 1 hr 15 minutes of that on hold.
After 20 minutes, got a guy who registered my voiceprint (for the 4th time), but couldn't help me with my query so transferred me. The next 50 odd minutes was listening to the shit hold music while doing other stuff on the computer. Finally this poor woman came on the line, her voice sounding like she'd had the day from hell. She asked me how I was and I told her I'd nearly lost the will to live after an hour of hold music, and she actually laughed, which was good. Lifted the mood of the conversation.
She wasn't able to actually help me either, but did show me where to go in the Centrelink part of the Mygov portal . Couldn't tell me either whether I'll lose Centrelink or have t reduced, as it all goes through the system, I have to put the details in and computer decides.
What a shit system, it's purpose built to ensure that by the time a caller gets through to a person, they're frustrated and agitated and the poor sod on the phone cops it. Luckily I'm a lot calmer than I used to be and had no interest in abusing the person on the phone ,never have really, I always try to be nice as I know they have a shit job, it's just easier now to be nice.
What an absolute cnut of a system though
I just wanted to report that I had access to my super now and had taken out a lump sum, which I assume would impact my current payments.
Can't report income using the App as you need to list an employer. I'm not employed, so bit the bullet and called up. 1 hr, 20 minutes in total, 1 hr 15 minutes of that on hold.
After 20 minutes, got a guy who registered my voiceprint (for the 4th time), but couldn't help me with my query so transferred me. The next 50 odd minutes was listening to the shit hold music while doing other stuff on the computer. Finally this poor woman came on the line, her voice sounding like she'd had the day from hell. She asked me how I was and I told her I'd nearly lost the will to live after an hour of hold music, and she actually laughed, which was good. Lifted the mood of the conversation.
She wasn't able to actually help me either, but did show me where to go in the Centrelink part of the Mygov portal . Couldn't tell me either whether I'll lose Centrelink or have t reduced, as it all goes through the system, I have to put the details in and computer decides.
What a shit system, it's purpose built to ensure that by the time a caller gets through to a person, they're frustrated and agitated and the poor sod on the phone cops it. Luckily I'm a lot calmer than I used to be and had no interest in abusing the person on the phone ,never have really, I always try to be nice as I know they have a shit job, it's just easier now to be nice.
What an absolute cnut of a system though
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.
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It's a shocker and even the online reporting is shit. When I started working it wanted me to report my income, once I hit full time hours it wouldn't allow me to put it in online as it was above the 30 hours a week. So a couple of weeks went by and they cut it due to non reporting!
I didn't have a Centrelink office in our town and couldn't really spend hours of my work day on the phone to them, eventually I tried ringing at 8am before going to work, finally got off the phone after 9am and was an hour late to work that day.
But the whole problem is anytime you actually visit an office they tell you that you should do it online, yeah, I wouldn't be there if the online shit worked!!!
I didn't have a Centrelink office in our town and couldn't really spend hours of my work day on the phone to them, eventually I tried ringing at 8am before going to work, finally got off the phone after 9am and was an hour late to work that day.
But the whole problem is anytime you actually visit an office they tell you that you should do it online, yeah, I wouldn't be there if the online shit worked!!!
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Which is quite remarkable given how often they commented on it whilst in opposition and said it needed fixing and payments increased.David wrote:Agree 100%, P4S. Terrible that the system hasn’t been improved and that the new government doesn’t see it as a priority.
Yet with the power to do it all, they’ve done absolutely nothing.
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Having to be the neighborhood noise police. I do get its hard for people to find time to do home reno work, but the borough council here is very clear on noisy Sunday work (like cutting concrete, of all things). I don't even mow on Sundays and I've got a quiet little electric job.
But this is the second time I've had to tell people in two weeks. Two of the three people in the offending group were apologetic, but there's always one. "I work all week, when am I...." Me: "Yesterday, from 8am to 1pm".
Anyhow, I tried to smooth it over by saying I don't think people would care if a bit of noisy stuff was done quickly, I know it's a public holiday tomorrow, etc. Not a huge deal, I just wish I wasn't the one who had to do it! It's a great little street generally, but a few houses have changed hands of late, and they probably don't twig just how tight the houses are here.
Interestingly, since I've said that everything they're doing is quieter, which I guess shows they could've done that from the start and no one would've minded.
But this is the second time I've had to tell people in two weeks. Two of the three people in the offending group were apologetic, but there's always one. "I work all week, when am I...." Me: "Yesterday, from 8am to 1pm".
Anyhow, I tried to smooth it over by saying I don't think people would care if a bit of noisy stuff was done quickly, I know it's a public holiday tomorrow, etc. Not a huge deal, I just wish I wasn't the one who had to do it! It's a great little street generally, but a few houses have changed hands of late, and they probably don't twig just how tight the houses are here.
Interestingly, since I've said that everything they're doing is quieter, which I guess shows they could've done that from the start and no one would've minded.
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After going in ever diminishing circles online, that's what I've done. I just typed up a letter, printed and signed it and tomorrow morning I'll whack it in the post. Old school.partypie wrote:If it’s non urgent, maybe write them a letter. If it’s within the required timeframe of notification you’ve done the right thing and you’re not ruining your day hanging on the phone. It’s not your fault they don’t have enough staff.
It's not my fault that their IT system is shit.
Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down.