Transgender politics and social issues

[David]

[stui magpie]

Good summary, what you missed is reflecting back to here. You and others just have different ideas on what is up for debate, what isn't and where the line is.

I read an excellent article recently on a young ex Collingwood AFLW player who has identified as non-binary and had their breasts surgically removed. I've never understood non-binary at all, reading that was the closest I've come as it was all from their words.

Here's the article, I'm happy to copy and paste it here if you'll turn a blind eye to the copyright for once, as it is 3 weeks old.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... d108daa2f8

[pietillidie]

[think positive]

Good summary, what you missed is reflecting back to here. You and others just have different ideas on what is up for debate, what isn't and where the line is.

I read an excellent article recently on a young ex Collingwood AFLW player who has identified as non-binary and had their breasts surgically removed. I've never understood non-binary at all, reading that was the closest I've come as it was all from their words.

Here's the article, I'm happy to copy and paste it here if you'll turn a blind eye to the copyright for once, as it is 3 weeks old.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... d108daa2f8

paywalled

why not he?

[stui magpie]

[think positive]

Thanks Stu,much appreciated




I’m old, to me this person needs counselling, that’s just my feeling on it, sounds like someone who has suffered some type of abuse,

As for they, etc, it would be great to come up with something, words that don’t already have a meaning, because it just makes no sense

Of course this is just my opinion. Call me old or anything else,

[djh]

I read this forum regularly and have done for many, many years, but I rarely post.

I feel that I need to post to support think positive, as I feel exactly the same way.

I too am old(ish), and simply cannot understand this, and agree that counselling is obviously required, but did presumably happen before such serious surgery.

As for the pronouns of they/their, it simply makes the article nigh on impossible to read. Those pronouns are for multiples so make no sense when referring to one person.

[think positive]

I like the way you worded this, much better than I did but exactly what I meant. Thankyou, cheers

[stui magpie]

I don't get it either, but when reading that article I put myself in the shoes of the parent and how I'd be if my Daughter came to me with that, explained how they felt. It's not about right and wrong, it's just accepting how they feel even if we don't get it.

[David]

[djh]

David, that is a good explanation. Thank you.

You are probably right in that we will get used to it, but at this point it is a struggle.

I have three kids, all adults, and they all seem to get it, so it is obviously the way of the world moving forward.

[What'sinaname]

Anyone under 18 shouldn't be allowed to undergo any kind of surgery or hormone treatment.

[stui magpie]

^

Surgery yes, hormone treatmentyes but only after proper counselling and sign off by a qualified medical practioner. Someone can stop hormone treatment if they change their mind, surgery is much harder to reverse.

In the case in the article above, they were 21 and just had their boobs removed. Everything south of the border is intact.

[think positive]

Anyone under 18 shouldn't be allowed to undergo any kind of surgery or hormone treatment.

100% this.

Just how much of kids confusion is actually coming from woke parents?

Let them be kids

[pietillidie]

Dave, is that you a few posts up? Been worried about yer; hope all is well.