Post Match. Pies win another thriller. All comments.

[Pies2016]

I checked his last month before I posted the above and it’s only further confirmation, he’s not getting enough hands on the footy. Cox position has never been in question because we’ve been short on talls for the last two years but Framptons form in the VFL today wont hurt his cause.
Having said that, I agree, Cox playing in a premiership would be even more special.

[inxs88]

Ken Hinkley playing "the young card"!! Turn it up Bell Park Ken

[lazzadesilva]

Got home from Adelaide today, had a absolute ball over there, what a game to see live. I said to all around me at 3/4 time that we will get the first goal in the last quarter and then game on. We were surrounded by Port supporters and we stood up with each goal we got and gave it our all!
The Collingwood chant was just magnificent as reverberated around the ground and continued well after the siren. Even on our 50 minute walk back to our accommodation it still happened sometimes by me and my crew and then by randoms in cars and one time i could hear and had to find where it was coming from and then I could see a guy yelling from a balcony about 10 floors up from across the road that we were walking. It was the one of the best weekends that I have had!

That must have been brilliant

[JC Hartley]

Top-of-the-table clashes don't come around very often, nor live up to the expectations all the time. On Saturday night in a contest that delivered and met expectations, Collingwood conjured another miracle which saw them come from behind at three quarter time to vanquish Port Adelaide by 2 points. The opening term was evenly fought with momentum shifts throughout the quarter where both sides booted four goals each, with the Magpies having their noses in front by 3 points at quarter time. The second quarter was low-scoring and scrappy with the Power gaining the upper hand by winning the quarter by 10 points to take a lead of 7 points into the main break at half time. The third term saw the Woods hit back early in the quarter, only for Port Adelaide to respond with answering goals to retain their lead and increase it slightly during the remainder of the term, despite being inaccurate at times which would ultimately cost them a victory, with Port winning the quarter by 10 points, therefore increasing their lead at three quarter time to 17 points. In the opening minutes of the last quarter, Collingwood hit back hard with incredible finishes from Steele Sidebottom and Josh Daicos to draw the margin back to within a kick. Nick Daicos, who was low on impact managed to convert a crucial goal to keep the Pies in the game, before Bobby Hill levelled the scores halfway through the final term. Then it was left to Jamie Elliott to save his best footy until last, where he booted two of his three goals in the last quarter. His second goal gave Collingwood back the lead, before his third and final goal came with three minutes left in which he disected the big sticks with a piercing drop punt that ultimately gave the final lead change to the Magpies, where they would not be headed for the remainder of the game, and were able to defend stoicly and hold on to win by 2 points.

Collingwood won their statistical categories from key indicators such as disposals by +14 (350 - 336), handballs were won by +29 (147 - 118), contested possessions had a differential of +8 (148 - 140), while hit-outs had a margin of +23 (57 - 34), followed by clearances which were up by +8 (54 - 46), centre clearances had an advantage of +4 (15 - 11), and +4 from stoppage clearances (39 - 35). Port Adelaide displayed their strengths from categories such as kicks by +15 (218 - 203), uncontested possessions were won by +16 (180 - 164), conceded fewer turnovers with a reading of -7 (73 - 80), and intercept possessions were up by +6 (80 - 74). Tackles had a margin of +15 (79 - 64), while Tackles Inside 50 were won by +13 (15 - 2). Marks went Port Adelaide's way by +11 (66 - 55), uncontested marks had a reading of +11 (57 - 46), while intercept marks were claimed by +6 (80 - 74), Marks Inside 50 had a differential of +2 ( 10 - 8 ), and Inside 50s had a gap of +13 (57 - 44). Contested marks (9 each) was the only neutral category.

Scott Pendlebury (28 disposals @ 61%, 581 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 16 kicks, 12 handballs, 2 marks, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 6 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 4 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) stood up in the midfield to win clearances and accumulate crucial possessions, of which he would kick it long and forward as often as possible in wet conditions.

Steele Sidebottom (26 disposals @ 50%, 502 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 20 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s, 5 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) competed hard on the wing, where he would run to provide support to his teammates or put the foot down and stop Port Adelaide's ball movement from stoppages. In a similar vein to Pendlebury, Sidebottom was all about territory.

Nick Daicos (25 disposals @ 60%, 317 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 11 handballs, 6 tackles, 4 score involvements, 9 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 5 stoppage clearances, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had his influence and impact nullified by Willem Drew, but still found ways to contribute to the team's ball movement, especially from clearances. Nick was able to capitalise on his shot at goal during the last quarter which contributed to the outcome of the contest.

Taylor Adams (25 disposals @ 60%, 597 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 20 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 6 score involvements, 9 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 7 stoppage clearances, 8 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was Collingwood's most influential player of the night in his 200th game, where he contributed to scoring chains and constantly provided opportunities for his team's forwards to compete or score from his possessions. Adams was particularly lethal around stoppage clearances, where he was able to win his own ball at will before producing attacking ball movement.

Josh Daicos (24 disposals @ 46%, 507 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 11 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) accumulated possessions regularly, but had to work harder than normal to win his possessions. Josh worked overtime to support his defenders with his work rate behind the ball being very noticeable. Josh kicked a great goal from the boundary to instill belief in his team's comeback, which was successful.

Jack Crisp (23 disposals @ 83%, 371 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 8 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 17 handballs, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 2 goal assists, 6 score involvements & 3 Inside 50s) relied on his handballing game to continually move the ball under pressure from the midfield or half-back on transition to generate run through the corridor or wings to break open Port Adelaide's grid behind the ball. Crisp is always an exciting player to watch when he is creating and producing daring runs through the corridor.

Jordan De Goey (19 disposals @ 42%, 183 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 10 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 score involvements, 7 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) had a torrid time in the midfield where much of his impact and creativity got shut down. De Goey's only major contribution was through his ability to win clearances from anywhere, but that was all he could do.

Darcy Cameron (16 disposals @ 56%, 45 hit-outs, 12 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 8 handballs, 2 tackles, 6 score involvements, 5 clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 2 Rebound 50s) played a pivotal role in giving his midfield opportunities to gather the footy at ground level and generating dominance in the middle and around the ground at stoppages.

Darcy Moore (20 disposals @ 75%, 328 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 8 handballs, 4 marks, 3 contested marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements & 6 Rebound 50s) provided steady and effective ball use coming out of defence, while winning crucial marks in aerial contests.

Isaac Quaynor (13 disposals @ 85%, 270 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 5 handballs, 3 marks & 4 Rebound 50s) was tremendous in defence with measured and effective ball use under pressure, while taking a few marks to stem the bleeding. Quaynor's effort to spoil Willie Rioli from marking and having a shot at goal was his greatest moment of the night.

Brayden Maynard (12 disposals @ 83%, 385 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) rolled high up the ground from defence to become a lethal and aggressive player to attack the game and create scoring chains for his teammates to finish off Maynard's hard work.

John Noble (11 disposals @ 91%, 246 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 tackles, 2 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) played simple and attacking footy throughout the evening where his ball use was highly accurate and effective.

Patrick Lipinski (20 disposals @ 80%, 289 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 10 handballs, 7 marks, 3 score involvements, 4 clearances & 4 stoppage clearances) played as a high half-forward that would then get involved at stoppages to play as an extra midfielder. Lipinski also provided countless leads as a half-forward by taking several marks to maintain possession before moving the ball on.

Jamie Elliott (12 disposals @ 83%, 177 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 6 handballs, 4 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 2 goal assists, 8 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 3 goals) put on a masterclass in the last quarter to get the Magpies over the line. His final goal of the game will be spoken about in the years and decades to come.

Beau McCreery (10 disposals @ 60%, 291 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 10 kicks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was immense on occasions with his breakaway speed resulting in a running snap going through for his only goal in the opening term, before using his footspeed once more to run towards 50 before pulling a magnificent kick across his body to Bobby Hill, who finished off McCreery's moment of brilliance.

Brody Mihocek (8 disposals @ 50%, 151 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 2 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 2 goals) kicked crucial goals at the right times to ensure the Pies did not lose touch with the Power throughout the evening.

Dan McStay (8 disposals @ 50%, 236 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 4 marks, 2 score involvements & 2 goals) performed in a similar manner to Brody Mihocek, where McStay took his chances and made them count on the scoreboard.

Collingwood's next game will be against Carlton on July 28 at the MCG. The Blues have shown resurgence, and under Friday night lights at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, the Magpies will attempt and endeavour to close and shut down any imposing and meaningful threats that Carlton might have. It is imperative that the Woods keep the Baggers in their bag, and consign them to their fourth consecutive loss against the Magpies on Friday.

[Meredith1965]

Yeah, IIRC BT got those 2 final-term goals by marking by protecting space with his huge backside. Couldn't jump any more!

And I remember Michael Christian was worried about his place in that finals series. Can't remember who the main competition for his place was, though.

Ronnie McKeown, who had done a great job at FB through 1990 quelling Lockett at least once. He was the sad part of 1990, standing in the race after the game looking devastated.

[stoliboy]

All our small forwards did well.

Also noticed Ginnivan kicked 2.3 in the VFL win. And most dream team points of any player (109).

If Ginnivan can pull together a few games like that back to back Fly could have another good problem in terms of competition for positions.

[Haff]

If Ginnivan can pull together a few games like that back to back Fly could have another good problem in terms of competition for positions.

I called Jack not being best 22 by seasons end if we had a full side. Without any Jinxing it looks like that is playing out.
Up against Jamie (All Australian form), Beau (different player who brings attack and effort) and Bobby (harder runner harassing forward).
Jack is a bit stiff but he doesn’t have any unique traits like the above do. Maybe had Jack’s head ducking rule not come in he would.

He basically has to wait for an injury. Like you said, good problem to have.

[slangman]

Let’s not forget that Port kicked two goals that should have been free kicks.
Salt and Pepper caught Moore smack bang in the middle of the face before he kicked the first goal of the game.
The umpires were the only people at the ground who didn’t see Marshall throw the ball to Rozee who waltzed into an open goal.
The scoreline flattered Port even though they had more F50 entries as our defence controlled their forwards.
A lot of things went Ports way on Saturday night and they still couldn’t get the job done.

[bucking awesome]

From Slangman

"Let’s not forget that Port kicked two goals that should have been free kicks.
Salt and Pepper caught Moore smack bang in the middle of the face before he kicked the first goal of the game.
The umpires were the only people at the ground who didn’t see Marshall throw the ball to Rozee who waltzed into an open goal.
The scoreline flattered Port even though they had more F50 entries as our defence controlled their forwards.
A lot of things went Ports way on Saturday night and they still couldn’t get the job done."

My thoughts

I think overall the umpiring didnt affect the game. You could add the deliberate out of bounds paid against Daicos that led to a Port goal but you could also argue if you were a port supporter that Elliott marked the ball over the boundary (he didnt) and that he then played on while out of bounds to kick the last goal (he didnt). He also got the goal before that froma deliberate out of bounds that could also be argued (I hate the rule by the way - bring in last touch as the lack of intent rule is just silly)

[jonmac1954]

The biggest failure in the umpiring was the outrageous 'insufficient' calls made on a wet and greasy night.

No allowances made for the conditions - this isn't a failure of the rule it's a failure to apply common sense.

[Pies2016]

Naicos, then DeGoey, were held and blocked off the ball by Drew all night. Because Drew can only get a game tagging, he plays very close to limits of the law. Some games they get called early, other games they don’t get called at all.

[blybo]

Freedom of speech! Clearly you don’t understand the Second Amendment!

Clearly you don't understand that the USA constitution has no relevance in Australia!

[think better]

I thought McStay showed his true value against Alir Alir.
He’s easily Ports best intercept defender and while McStay didn’t dominate, he did kick two and Alir Alir only had 10 possessions. Miochek got a bit of freedom and also kicked two playing on a lesser opponent ( either McKenzie or Jones )
McStay is a smart player and a serious workhorse. He was never a big goal kicker at the Lions, so the sooner we accept that and understand he makes life easier for others around him, the sooner we will appreciate why the club invested in him.

This is spot on - early in the game Alir was running around quite loose - Mc Stay looked like he got an instruction to go with him and that worked well. I don't know the stats on Alir's marking/intercepts but I am sure it went down as the game went on.

[Boot]

Yeah, IIRC BT got those 2 final-term goals by marking by protecting space with his huge backside. Couldn't jump any more!

And I remember Michael Christian was worried about his place in that finals series. Can't remember who the main competition for his place was, though.

BT was done by the end of 1990 season and no-one was surprised when he retired at the end of that season. He got every last drop from the tank though and its a credit to him that he got a couple of goals to help beat the West Coast Eagles in that finals series. Leigh Matthews made the right call on the team selection in 1990 and I doubt it had anything to do with the Diary that BT wrote that year that was published straight after the season finished. It was a good read too, although I doubt it will win a Pulitzer award for literary excellence.

Collingwood had three key defenders viaing for selection for the 1990 grand final; Michael Christain, Craig Kelly and Ron McKeown. It was the unlucky McKeown who missed out.
Ron McKeown was a very talented footballer who debuted as a very young player who imo never reached his full potential. Always seemed to be a bit introverted which, along with some injuries that curtailed him, probably held him back.
I have no doubt that if McKeown had played in the 1990 grand final, the Pies would still have won but unfortunately for Ron we will never know what could have been. There's always a hard luck story about every Premiership team where someone was unlucky to miss selection. The other one from 1990 was Alan Richardson who was very unlucky to fail a fitness test with a dislocated shoulder which allowed Shane Kerrison to be a Premiership hero.

[Geek]

WOW I F**KING DID

Don’t give him air time mate. Support the team your own way.

Freedom of speech! Clearly you don’t understand the Second Amendment! Why do some supporters on this site worry so much about what others say? I find the so called negative posters the most constructive, honest , passionate, and committed fans. The rose coloured glasses types are boring ! They drive me to the drink