What unpopular opinions do you have?

[think positive]

Martin Bryant, Julian knight, Anita Colbys killers, the English house of horrors couple, none deserve to breathe air.

However, Having watched the innocence project, and making a murderer, (i still follow Steves story on facebook etc, its just a terrible injustice, he was clearly not guilty, either time!) makes me reluctant to go further down the depravities chain. But that too is coloured by the unbelievably evil corrupted USA justice system.

Im crook as a dog right now (thanks hubby) coughing my lungs up, so yesterday i watched Netflix's Painkiller about Oxycontin. mind blowing the evilness that killed over 300,000 people with false advertising, disgraceful selling tactics, it was legalized mass murder. no charges, still rich.

then after lunch i got stuck into the latest 60 days in. Now i really loved the El Chappo series, Queen of the South, SOA, Breaking Bad, you name it, but seeing 17-18 year old kids in prison, acting like they are in a series, its terrifying.

Watching our road toll skyrocket, so many innocents killed by damn selfish drunk, drugged, speeding ****, the shootings, the stabbings, the gang bashing, we need to unplug from the US culture and fast.

A 14 year old girl was arrested in front of the school at juniors school last week for one such gang bashing at her sisters school. Man i know She is making a difference, but i truly hope to God Shes out of there soon.


there has to be something between the death penalty and the crap handed out right now to those who are simply sticking their middle finger up to the law, to society, to every one of us idiots doing the right thing.

You choose to drive a car, unlicenced, licenced, drugged, drunk, underage, you recklessly kill someone, i don't care how old you are, thats serious jail time. You punch someone for the hell of it, Jail time. These kids are not scared of getting caught, or they value the opinion of their idiot mates more than their freedom.

then we can start talking about how to reduce Recidivism.

The simple fact is also that there are just so many parents not doing their basic job. Kids with no sense of community, self-respect, and respect for others. Child services is failing these kids badly.

[David]

My extremely unpopular opinion is that criminals are human beings too, who deserve to be treated with kindness and dignity, no matter what they’ve done.

[think positive]

Nope, cold, sadistic, psychotic, predators that didn’t afford such niceties to their victims deserve nothing but a hard bunk and 3 shit meals a day til they meet their maker. The sooner the better.

I mentioned hard core cruel sadistic hunting killers, they are in a seperate category to your garden variety killers, drug dealers, sex traffickers, child abusers, etc, who also deserve nought but a hard cot and 3 shit meals, but they can live their miserable existences in GenPop.

Iget a bit more sympathetic to no violence thieves etc.

[stui magpie]

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I mentioned that English Nurse who killed all those prem babies.

I don't know what her malfunction is, but that wasn't one momentary lapse of judgement, that was cold blooded, premeditated multiple murders.

I believe she's been given a USA style sentence, surprisingly for the UK, multiple life sentences with zero prospect of parole. No prospect of rehabilitation. She does not deserve to be treated with kindness and dignity. She's destined to die in gaol, what good is served by prolonging it for 40-50 years and waiting til she dies of natural causes or other convicts taking matters into their own hands?

All of those parents who lost children, live their lives knowing that the woman who murdered their babies may have lost her freedom, but will live out the course of her natural life behind bars being treated with dignity and respect? That's rubbing salt into an open wound and keeping it open forever. She has forfeited her right to dignity and kindness, she deserves to die.

[What'sinaname]

My extremely unpopular opinion is that criminals are human beings too, who deserve to be treated with kindness and dignity, no matter what they’ve done.

I agree 100% David. That is a very unpopular opinion.

[David]

Nope, cold, sadistic, psychotic, predators that didn’t afford such niceties to their victims deserve nothing but a hard bunk and 3 shit meals a day til they meet their maker. The sooner the better.

I mentioned hard core cruel sadistic hunting killers, they are in a seperate category to your garden variety killers, drug dealers, sex traffickers, child abusers, etc, who also deserve nought but a hard cot and 3 shit meals, but they can live their miserable existences in GenPop.

Iget a bit more sympathetic to no violence thieves etc.

Could say "agree to disagree" but I guess it's more interesting to ask ... why? Why should people who were cruel to others be treated cruelly in return?

I kind of wonder how many people reading the Gospels nowadays get their minds blown by the bit where JC talks about "loving your enemies" rather than taking an eye for an eye. It's occurred to me before how weird it is that this is the religion that our entire society has been built around, yet these ideas in its holy book remain radical.

[Bucks5]

A child killer will be given hell behind bars. The only reason they will not kill her is to inflict torture and prolong her suffering

[stui magpie]

Why should people who were cruel to others be treated cruelly in return?

Why does it need to be done cruelly? People can do voluntary euthanasia, they die, it's not cruel.

[think positive]

A child killer will be given hell behind bars. The only reason they will not kill her is to inflict torture and prolong her suffering

I’m fine with that

[think positive]

^

I mentioned that English Nurse who killed all those prem babies.

I don't know what her malfunction is, but that wasn't one momentary lapse of judgement, that was cold blooded, premeditated multiple murders.

I believe she's been given a USA style sentence, surprisingly for the UK, multiple life sentences with zero prospect of parole. No prospect of rehabilitation. She does not deserve to be treated with kindness and dignity. She's destined to die in gaol, what good is served by prolonging it for 40-50 years and waiting til she dies of natural causes or other convicts taking matters into their own hands?

All of those parents who lost children, live their lives knowing that the woman who murdered their babies may have lost her freedom, but will live out the course of her natural life behind bars being treated with dignity and respect? That's rubbing salt into an open wound and keeping it open forever. She has forfeited her right to dignity and kindness, she deserves to die.

Totally agree

[think positive]

Why should people who were cruel to others be treated cruelly in return?

Why does it need to be done cruelly? People can do voluntary euthanasia, they die, it's not cruel.

agree with this and I’ll add, even without the death sentence, unless the somehow earn it, I cant imagine how, they get absolutely basic requirements.

And exactly how does anyone think such calculatingly cruel people would respond to ‘kindness’? I’d guess by abusing or manipulating it.

For some crimes there simply is no road to redemption.

[think positive]

Nope, cold, sadistic, psychotic, predators that didn’t afford such niceties to their victims deserve nothing but a hard bunk and 3 shit meals a day til they meet their maker. The sooner the better.

I mentioned hard core cruel sadistic hunting killers, they are in a seperate category to your garden variety killers, drug dealers, sex traffickers, child abusers, etc, who also deserve nought but a hard cot and 3 shit meals, but they can live their miserable existences in GenPop.

Iget a bit more sympathetic to no violence thieves etc.

Could say "agree to disagree" but I guess it's more interesting to ask ... why? Why should people who were cruel to others be treated cruelly in return?

I kind of wonder how many people reading the Gospels nowadays get their minds blown by the bit where JC talks about "loving your enemies" rather than taking an eye for an eye. It's occurred to me before how weird it is that this is the religion that our entire society has been built around, yet these ideas in its holy book remain radical.

Never read it never will.

Not the rules or laws I live by.

[David]

And I feel like, in this country, you’re in the majority these days (though the far more "Christian" USA is of course no less eye-for-an-eye in its mainstream cultural attitudes to crime and punishment).

I wonder if this is how Christianity meets its cultural demise: with the conclusion that Jesus was a softc*ck?

I guess one can only shrug. As an atheist who thinks that most of it was made up after the fact, I’m no-one to talk! But I do admire the radicalism of that worldview nonetheless, and find that it’s one I identify with in many ways, God or no God.

[David]

[think positive]

welll they cant be, or they would get caught bloody quick!